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    Default Talk me off the ledge, please

    I admit, one of my biggest struggles early in the season is having patience with my players and with my team. And dammit, when I propose a trade offer to another league GM, I want a response now! (haha)

    But seriously, I'm in a new keeper league and considering this trade. I do believe if you ain't tradin', you ain't tryin'!

    This league is so deep and LW's and goalies are at a premium and therefore, seem to have more value.

    The manager is wanting either Yakupov or Hertl, obviously I'd rather give up Hertl, his fast start notwithstanding. I know Yak has started slow, but would HATE to lose him:

    Yakupov or Hertl
    Dubnyk

    I receive
    Benn

    I think we are only keeping 5 players for next year so need to pare my keepers down a little. I'm leaving myself thin in G but focused more on next year.

    Thoughts. Team is the keeper below:
    20-team! H2H Keeper League
    G, A, PTS, PIM, +/-, PPG, PPP, GWG, SOG, Hits, BLK (11)
    W, GAA, SV, SA, SV%, SO (6)

    C: Giroux, MacKinnon
    LW: Benn,
    Ladd, (Drouin), Tatar
    RW: Eberle, Wheeler, Jaskin
    D: Trouba, OEL, Gudas, Gorges
    G: Schneider , Enroth, Andersen (Anh), Markstrom, Gustavsson, Raanta

    10-Team H2H Yahoo League
    G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW,FL, Hits (12)
    W, L, GAA, SA, SV%, SHO (6)

    C:
    E. Staal, Backes, Skinner, Backlund
    LW: Neal, E. Kane, Dubinsky
    RW: Eberle, Callahan, Voracek,Tarasenko
    D: Phaneuf, Kronwall, OEL, Gudas
    G: Rask, Halak, Bishop, Rinne (IR)

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    Hertl and Duby for Benn is a great upgrade for you, I'd do it.
    12 Team Keeper, Keep 17, Keepers,
    Roster: 4C, 3RW, 3LW, 5D, 2U, 3B, 3IR, 4G (Start 2)
    Stats: G(3), A(2), +/-, PIM(0.5), PPP(2), SHP(3), GWG(2), SOG (0.1), HITS(0.1), BLKS(0.2), W(3), OTL (1), GA(-1), SV(0.2), SO(3)

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    LW: Parise, Benn (LW/C), Hall, Skinner, Toffoli (RW/LW/C)
    RW: Perry, Wheeler, Hemsky, Bennett
    D: Doughty, Kronwall, Byfuglien, Josi
    G: Schneider, Hiller, Andersen, Lack
    IR: Harding, Yakupov

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    I would be okay with Hertl and Dubnyk for Benn.

    Especially in a limited keeper.

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    Well i like this move for this year, and I think it gives you better trade value when you want to pare down by packaging players for an upgrade, so like the other before me - thumbs up.

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    Agreed, Hertl/Dubnyk for a proven stud like Benn is a good deal, I'd take it.
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    C-Giroux,Kopitar,Zajac,Pirri
    W-Perry,Neal,Oshie,van Riemsdyk,Perron,Clarkson,Chiasson,M.Foligno
    D-Yandle,J.Johnson,Carlson,Krug,Barrie,Enstrom,Barbe rio
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieDog View Post
    Agreed, Hertl/Dubnyk for a proven stud like Benn is a good deal, I'd take it.
    Well, Benn isn't a proven stud yet. But I would definately do Dubnyk and Hertl for Benn.

    10 Team NHL Keeper League (Keep 6)
    Points only (F/D 1pt/G 1pt/A, Goalie 2pt/W 3pt/SO)
    Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalie
    (82 game cap at each position)
    Bench: 3 Any Position
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    F- Tavares, Giroux, Backstrom, Getzlaf, Benn, Parise, Eriksson, E.Kane, M.Koivu, Vrbata, Turris, Hudler, Desharnais
    D- Burns, Green, Kronwall, Phaneuf, Goligoski, Giordano
    G- Rask, Holtby, Halak, Lack
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    I was pretty comfortable with it as well, as much as you hate to lose a player (in this case Hertl, as well as a starting G), I'm pretty happy.

    Appreciate you all reaffirming my thoughts.

    Thanks fellow Dobberites!
    20-team! H2H Keeper League
    G, A, PTS, PIM, +/-, PPG, PPP, GWG, SOG, Hits, BLK (11)
    W, GAA, SV, SA, SV%, SO (6)

    C: Giroux, MacKinnon
    LW: Benn,
    Ladd, (Drouin), Tatar
    RW: Eberle, Wheeler, Jaskin
    D: Trouba, OEL, Gudas, Gorges
    G: Schneider , Enroth, Andersen (Anh), Markstrom, Gustavsson, Raanta

    10-Team H2H Yahoo League
    G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW,FL, Hits (12)
    W, L, GAA, SA, SV%, SHO (6)

    C:
    E. Staal, Backes, Skinner, Backlund
    LW: Neal, E. Kane, Dubinsky
    RW: Eberle, Callahan, Voracek,Tarasenko
    D: Phaneuf, Kronwall, OEL, Gudas
    G: Rask, Halak, Bishop, Rinne (IR)

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    Good deal.

    If you are focused more on next year, I'd try putting together a few more deals like that.

    You can afford 2 for 1 deals if you are thinking longer term.

    Good luck.
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    8F, 5D & 2G count, keep 15 + 2R
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    F: Tarasenko, Galchenyuk, Kuznetsov, Lupul, Stepan, Purcell, MacKinnon, Drouin, Barkov, Domi
    D: M. Reilly, Hedman,Ehrhoff, S.Jones, Bogosian
    G: Rask, Bobrovsky, Markstrom

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    12F, 6D & 2G count, keep 20
    Expansion: 2013

    F: Kuznetsov, Grigorenko, Coyle, Teravainen, J.Stall, Drouin, Tlusty, Nichushkin, Stepan, Gagner, Z.Kassian, Hartnell, Kreider, Parenteau, Tlusty, Hanzal
    D: Carlson, Brodin, Vatanen, A.Larsson
    G: Holtby, Lehner, Schneider


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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    Good deal.

    If you are focused more on next year, I'd try putting together a few more deals like that.

    You can afford 2 for 1 deals if you are thinking longer term.

    Good luck.
    Thanks, my thoughts as well. I have been quite fortunate in my attempts to grab players like Hertl, package them with another player and flip for stronger keepers.
    20-team! H2H Keeper League
    G, A, PTS, PIM, +/-, PPG, PPP, GWG, SOG, Hits, BLK (11)
    W, GAA, SV, SA, SV%, SO (6)

    C: Giroux, MacKinnon
    LW: Benn,
    Ladd, (Drouin), Tatar
    RW: Eberle, Wheeler, Jaskin
    D: Trouba, OEL, Gudas, Gorges
    G: Schneider , Enroth, Andersen (Anh), Markstrom, Gustavsson, Raanta

    10-Team H2H Yahoo League
    G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW,FL, Hits (12)
    W, L, GAA, SA, SV%, SHO (6)

    C:
    E. Staal, Backes, Skinner, Backlund
    LW: Neal, E. Kane, Dubinsky
    RW: Eberle, Callahan, Voracek,Tarasenko
    D: Phaneuf, Kronwall, OEL, Gudas
    G: Rask, Halak, Bishop, Rinne (IR)

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