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    rather have: (long and short term)

    EJ
    B. Smith
    T. Myers

    Who has the most upside and the potential of reaching it?

    The reason I am asking is because I am about to make an offer for Myers, and I have both Smith and EJ.
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    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    Myers has the most upside of the three by far IMO. Smitty might end up the safest bet over the long haul though. EJ is a nightmare to own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    Myers has the most upside of the three by far IMO. Smitty might end up the safest bet over the long haul though. EJ is a nightmare to own.
    He might take EJ for Myers. Myers has had crap years since his rookie year, and everyone seems to be waiting for EJ to break out.
    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeps View Post
    He might take EJ for Myers. Myers has had crap years since his rookie year, and everyone seems to be waiting for EJ to break out.
    I'd roll the dice with Myers if I had my pick of the two. This is points only, correct?
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    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    I'd roll the dice with Myers if I had my pick of the two. This is points only, correct?
    It looks like +/- is in there too. That might help Smith's case a bit. But longer term, I'd still gamble on Myers, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    I'd roll the dice with Myers if I had my pick of the two. This is points only, correct?
    Yes. But +/- has some consideration.
    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    EJ for literally anyone is a huge steal for you. I like Smith long-term, Myers might be in tough on a rough Sabres team.
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    Myers probably has the most upside but of the three, I think Smith will be the one who reaches his full potential.

    Myers has done nothing but regress annually since winning the ROY. I watched a few Sabres games last year and he simply looked lost a few times. He struggled with the puck, almost looked afraid. He really needs to be sent to the minors to regain his confidence and his game, but Buffalo won't do that. They are committed to him, come hell or high water. It's too bad.

    EJ isn't worth talking about here anymore. I used to be a believer and thought he had what it took to turn it around but I have given up hope on him.

    If I had to pick one of these three, I would go with Smith. Until Myers can get his game pieces back together, he is going to struggle and it's simply painful to watch. If you can trade EJ for Myers, I would do that and hope Myers can get his pewp together. EJ is simply not worth owning anymore. Trade him if you have the chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    If I had to pick one of these three, I would go with Smith. Until Myers can get his game pieces back together, he is going to struggle and it's simply painful to watch. If you can trade EJ for Myers, I would do that and hope Myers can get his pewp together. EJ is simply not worth owning anymore. Trade him if you have the chance.
    I agree with this assessment.
    I'd rank'em

    Smith
    Myers

    EJ
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    The trade ended up being my EJ, Allen and Killorn (plus a 2nd in 2015) for his Myers and Schwartz.

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    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    I like Schwartz a lot more than Killorn.
    Seems like giving up Allen will be okay (unless Holtby loses ground this year).

    I think you did okay here.
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    Tyler Myers. I still think he will rebound and have another 40-50 pt year one of these years. Great player

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    I'd rank them as follow:

    Myers
    Smith
    EJ (not a fan at all)
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