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    The guy with Karlsson is a tough one to crack.

    I was thinking of offering:

    Letang
    Green
    Pavelski

    for his:

    Karlsson
    a no name dman(so then I'd keep my Kulikov in this spot)
    Zetterberg

    now would this be smart or not so smart to do? does this hurt my d depth rather than benefit it? I know it helps my forward depth some what


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    Defense: 3pts/Goal 1.5pts/Assist 6 pts/hattrick
    New Stats: Defense and Forwards both
    0.05 pts/Hit 0.05/Blocked shot
    Goalie: 2pts/win 1pt/tie 5pts/Shutout 0.02pts/save



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    F - STAMKOS, ST. LOUIS, OVECHKIN, BACKSTROM, TAVARES, LANDESKOG, WHEELER, Kesler, Filppula, Johansson, Turris, Killorn

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    G - HOLTBY, Smith

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    D - Kulikov, Zidlicky, Visnovsky
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    I don't see the value in this. Karlsson and letang will put up similar points. Why are you so desperate for him? End of year, health permitting, I see them within 6 pts of one another
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    I don't like it at first blush. Depending on the size of your league, there's no need to do this. EDIT: After looking at your setup, there's no need. Depth is good when you're starting 6 D, especially when your next 4 aren't that great. If Karlsson goes down again, there's nothing there on D, really.
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    Not sure I like it....I'd probably keep what you have. Letang is a stud in his own right.
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    You are getting the best defensemen and the best forward in the deal. Tough though. Which forward would you not keep to keep Zett.

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    Kesler is currently my 8th fwd so if i got zett id let Kes go


    12 team keeper league

    dress 12F 6D 2G, bench 6F 3D 1G

    keep 8 F, 4D, 1G, draft every year for the rest.

    Forwards: 2pts/Goal 1pt/Assist 4pts/hattrick
    Defense: 3pts/Goal 1.5pts/Assist 6 pts/hattrick
    New Stats: Defense and Forwards both
    0.05 pts/Hit 0.05/Blocked shot
    Goalie: 2pts/win 1pt/tie 5pts/Shutout 0.02pts/save



    Dressed
    F - STAMKOS, ST. LOUIS, OVECHKIN, BACKSTROM, TAVARES, LANDESKOG, WHEELER, Kesler, Filppula, Johansson, Turris, Killorn

    D - HEDMAN, BOGOSIAN, GREEN, EKMAN-LARSSON, Carle, Bieksa

    G - HOLTBY, Smith

    Bench
    F - Boedker, Burrows, Niederreiter, Jagr, Brouwer, DROUIN
    D - Kulikov, Zidlicky, Visnovsky
    G - Bishop



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    Quote Originally Posted by BogosianLandeskog View Post
    Kesler is currently my 8th fwd so if i got zett id let Kes go
    Absolutely not then. That makes Green/Letang/Kesler for Karlsson/Zetterberg/Plug.

    Letang < Karlsson (but almost equal)
    Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plug
    Kesler < Zetterberg (but not by a whole lot.
    Pavelski >>>>>>>>>>>> nothing.

    It's at best a lateral move.
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    I wouldn't table that if I were you.

    One of Letang or Green will probably have a monster season, and defensemen are at a huge premium in your league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BogosianLandeskog View Post
    Kesler is currently my 8th fwd so if i got zett id let Kes go
    Ok since it you would have to drop Kesler and weren't keeping Palelski either way so as far as your keepers the offer actually becomes

    Letang,Green,Kesler

    for

    Karlsson,Kulikov,Zetterberg

    It's fairly close but I do think that this is an upgrade. You are winning 2 of those 3 spots and Kulikov has solid upside(although not close to Green's). Plus Karlsson is way younger than Letang.

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    I don't think this deal is very good for you. With Letang and Green both outhitting and outblocking Karlsson by quite a bit - they both close the gap on Karlsson points wise - I think the high level depth you keep is worth more that the upgrade you receive - Kesler also brings that over Zetterberg. This is not a good deal for you.

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