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    Since it looks like no one else has posted the results of the DobberHockey Experts League 2013-14 draft (held on September 18th), here you go. Oh, and since this took more 45 minutes to format for posting, make sure to give lots of comments (and I'd take some rep too....just saying).....

    Best team?
    Worst team?
    Best and worst picks round by round?
    Biggest steals?
    Worst overpays?

    Let the analysis and (good natured) ribbing begin!

    Categories (all equally weighted) - G, A, +/-, PPP, Shots, Hits, GAA, Saves, Wins

    Roster requirements - C, C, C, C, LW, LW, LW, LW, RW, RW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, D, D, G, G (plus 5 reserves - any position)

    Mods - maybe make this a sticky?

    Note - the post was too many characters, so you click on this link to see the first rounds, along with a listing of teams so you can follow along:

    http://forums.dobbersports.com/showt...ee#post1192936


    Round 4
    1. Toews (Chi - C)
    2. Zetterberg (Det - C,LW)
    3. Chara (Bos - D)
    4. Nabokov (NYI - G)
    5. Ward (Car - G)
    6. Phaneuf (Tor - D)
    7. Couture (SJ - C,LW)
    8. Kopitar (LA - C)
    9. Backes (StL - C,RW)
    10. Backstrom (Min - G)
    11. Duchene (Col - C,LW)
    12. Pacioretty (Mon - LW)
    13. Green (Was - D)
    14. Doughty (LA - D)
    15. Lucic (Bos - LW)
    16. Suter (Min - D)

    Round 5
    1. Kronwall (Det - D)
    2. Seguin (Dal - C,RW)
    3. Dubnyk (Edm - G)
    4. Benn (Dal - LW)
    5. Burns (SJ - RW,D)
    6. Bishop (TB - G)
    7. Spezza (Ott - C)
    8. Yandle (Pho - D)
    9. Eberle (Edm - RW)
    10. Hiller (Anh - G)
    11. Schneider (NJ - G)
    12. Emery (Phi - G)
    13. Beauchemin (Anh - D)
    14. Hossa (Chi - RW)
    15. Edler (Van - D)
    16. Semin (Car - LW,RW) J

    Round 6
    1. Eriksson (Bos - LW,RW)
    2. Sharp (Chi - C,LW)
    3. Vanek (Buf - LW,RW)
    4. Lupul (Tor - LW,RW)
    5. Gaborik (Cls - RW)
    6. Kesler (Van - C)
    7. Stepan (NYR - C)
    8. Moulson (NYI - LW)
    9. Landeskog (Col - LW)
    10. Callahan (NYR - RW)
    11. Keith (Chi - D)
    12. Marleau (SJ - C,LW)
    13. Wheeler (Wpg - RW)
    14. Voracek (Phi - RW)
    15. Schenn (Phi - C,LW)
    16. Nugent-Hopkins (Edm - C)

    Round 7
    1. Carter (LA - C,LW,RW)
    2. Hartnell (Phi - LW)
    3. Brodeur (NJ - G)
    4. Pietrangelo (StL - D)
    5. Streit (Phi - D)
    6. Kadri (Tor - C)
    7. Del Zotto (NYR - D) .
    8. Schultz (Edm - D)
    9. Yakupov (Edm - RW) .
    10. Joe Pavelski (SJ - C,RW)
    11. Ladd (Wpg - LW)
    12. Brouwer (Was - RW)
    13. Dupuis (Pit - LW,RW)
    14. Bernier (Tor - G)
    15. Johnson (Cls - D)
    16. Thornton (SJ - C)

    Round 8
    1. Boyle (SJ - D)
    2. Ribeiro (Pho - C)
    3. Krejci (Bos - C)
    4. Huberdeau (Fla - C,LW)
    5. Thomas (Fla - G)
    6. Ekman-Larsson (Pho - D)
    7. Voynov (LA - D)
    8. Parenteau (Col - RW)
    9. Simmonds (Phi - RW)
    10. Iginla (Bos - RW)
    11. Lecavalier (Phi - C)
    12. Koivu (Min - C)
    13. Marchand (Bos - LW)
    14. Skinner (Car - C,RW)
    15. Shattenkirk (StL - D)
    16. van Riemsdyk (Tor - LW)

    Round 9
    1. Franzen (Det - LW,RW)
    2. Seabrook (Chi - D)
    3. Hedman (TB - D)
    4. Enstrom (Wpg - D)
    5. Vrbata (Pho - RW)
    6. Galchenyuk (Mon - C,LW)
    7. Richards (NYR - C)
    8. Clarkson (Tor - RW)
    9. Fasth (Anh - G)
    10. Doan (Pho - LW,RW)
    11. Bergeron (Bos - C)
    12. Richards (LA - C,LW)
    13. Markov (Mon - D)
    14. Gagner (Edm - C,RW)
    15. Pominville (Min - RW)
    16. Burrows (Van - LW,RW) .

    Round 10
    1. Campbell (Fla - D) ..
    2. MacKinnon (Col - C)
    3. Drouin (TB - LW)
    4. Tlusty (Car - LW)
    5. Heatley (Min - LW,RW)
    6. Ott (Buf - C,LW)
    7. Elias (NJ - C,LW)
    8. Elliott (StL - G)
    9. Dubinsky (Cls - C,LW)
    10. Wisniewski (Cls - D)
    11. Stewart (StL - RW)
    12. Ramo (Cgy - G)
    13. Plekanec (Mon - C)
    14. Markstrom (Fla - G)
    15. Little (Wpg - C,RW)
    16. Alfredsson (Det - RW)

    Round 11
    1. Carlson (Was - D)
    2. Franson (Tor - D)
    3. Staal (Car - C,LW)
    4. Timonen (Phi - D)
    5. Wideman (Cgy - D)
    6. Hodgson (Buf - C,RW)
    7. Hanzal (Pho - C)
    8. Ehrhoff (Buf - D)
    9. Gonchar (Dal - D)
    10. Seidenberg (Bos - D)
    11. Faulk (Car - D)
    12. Silfverberg (Anh - LW,RW)
    13. Eller (Mon - C)
    14. Tarasenko (StL - RW)
    15. Clutterbuck (NYI - RW)
    16. Purcell (TB - RW)

    Round 12
    1. Williams (LA - RW)
    2. Clowe (NJ - LW,RW)
    3. Neil (Ott - RW)
    4. Bogosian (Wpg - D)
    5. Boedker (Pho - LW)
    6. Goligoski (Dal - D)
    7. Oshie (StL - C,RW)
    8. Ennis (Buf - C,LW)
    9. Perron (Edm - LW)
    10. Ruutu (Car - C,LW)
    11. Reimer (Tor - G)
    12. Ryder (NJ - RW)
    13. Saad (Chi - LW)
    14. Weiss (Det - C)
    15. Gallagher (Mon - RW)
    16. Hamonic (NYI - D)

    Round 13
    1. Leddy (Chi - D)
    2. Girardi (NYR - D)
    3. Tyutin (Cls - D)
    4. Stastny (Col - C)
    5. Fleischmann (Fla - LW)
    6. Selanne (Anh - RW)
    7. Michalek (Ott - LW,RW)
    8. Lehner (Ott - G)
    9. Turris (Ott - C)
    10. Hamhuis (Van - D)
    11. Whitney (Dal - LW)
    12. Martin (Pit - D)
    13. Muzzin (LA - D)
    14. Schenn (Phi - D)
    15. Brassard (NYR - C)
    16. Dillon (Dal - D)

    Round 14
    1. Gardiner (Tor - D)
    2. Giordano (Cgy - D)
    3. Filppula (TB - C,LW)
    4. Setoguchi (Wpg - RW)
    5. Atkinson (Cls - RW)
    6. Erat (Was - LW,RW)
    7. Ryan O'Reilly (Col - C,LW)
    8. Steen (StL - C,LW)
    9. Grabovski (Was - C)
    10. Jokinen (Pit - C,LW)
    11. Vokoun (Pit - G)
    12. Hornqvist (Nsh - RW)
    13. Okposo (NYI - RW)
    14. Wilson (Nsh - LW)
    15. Barkov (Fla - C)
    16. Hamilton (Bos - D)

    Round 15
    1. Carle (TB - D)
    2. ones (Nsh - D)
    3. Brodin (Min - D)
    4. Mason (Phi - G)
    5. Robidas (Dal - D)
    6. Bickell (Chi - LW)
    7. Bozak (Tor - C)
    8. Bieksa (Van - D)
    9. Visnovsky (NYI - D)
    10. Fisher (Nsh - C)
    11. Martin (NYI - LW)
    12. Abdelkader (Det - LW,RW)
    13. Brunner (NJ - C)
    14. Frattin (LA - RW)
    15. Garrison (Van - D)
    16. Berglund (StL - C)

    Round 16
    1. Fowler (Anh - D)
    2. Schwartz (StL - C)
    3. Phillips (Ott - D)
    4. Wiercioch (Ott - D)
    5. Johansson (Was - C)
    6. McDonagh (NYR - D)
    7. Laich (Was - C)
    8. Cammalleri (Cgy - C,LW)
    9. Roy (StL - C)
    10. Foligno (Buf - LW)
    11. Etem (Anh - LW,RW)
    12. Cole (Dal - RW)
    13. Bennett (Pit - RW)
    14. Coyle (Min - C,RW)
    15. Eakin (Dal - C)
    16. Kulikov (Fla - D)

    Round 17
    1. Diaz (Mon - D)
    2. Kulemin (Tor - LW,RW)
    3. offoli (LA - C,RW)
    4. Josi (Nsh - D)
    5. MacArthur (Ott - LW)
    6. Nichushkin (Dal - RW)
    7. Horton (Cls - RW)
    8. Smith (Det - D)
    9. Barrie (Col - D)
    10. Bouwmeester (StL - D)
    11. Zajac (NJ - C)
    12. Krug (Bos - D)
    13. Stempniak (Cgy - LW,RW)
    14. Zidlicky (NJ - D)
    15. Johnson (Col - D)
    16. Read (Phi - RW)

    Round 18
    1. Desharnais (Mon - C)
    2. Frolik (Wpg - C,RW)
    3. Jagr (NJ - RW)
    4. Conacher (Ott - C)
    5. Matthias (Fla - C)
    6. Zibanejad (Ott - C)
    7. Versteeg (Fla - LW,RW)
    8. Whitney (StL - D)
    9. Baertschi (Cgy - LW)
    10. Downie (Col - LW,RW)
    11. Ranger (Tor - D)
    12. Vermette (Pho - C,LW)
    13. Lindback (TB - G)
    14. Henrique (NJ - C)
    15. Gudas (TB - D)
    16. Myers (Buf - D)

    Round 19
    1. Ellis (Nsh - D)
    2. Hemsky (Edm - RW)
    3. Leino (Buf - C,LW)
    4. Foligno (Cls - LW)
    5. Stalberg (Nsh - LW)
    6. Orpik (Pit - D)
    7. Petry (Edm - D)
    8. Kassian (Van - RW)
    9. Souray (Anh - D)
    10. Nyquist (Det - C)
    11. Emelin (Mon - D)
    12. Greiss (Pho - G)
    13. Glencross (Cgy - LW)
    14. Kreider (NYR - C)
    15. Jokinen (Wpg - C)
    16. Johansen (Cls - C,RW)

    Round 20
    1. Spurgeon (Min - D)
    2. Donovan (NYI - D)
    3. Briere (Mon - C,RW)
    4. Corvo (Ott - D)
    5. Stone (Pho - D)
    6. Hansen (Van - RW)
    7. Greening (Ott - LW)
    8. Nikitin (Cls - D)
    9. Vatanen (Anh - D)
    10. Meszaros (Phi - D)
    11. Hagelin (NYR - LW)
    12. Niskanen (Pit - D)
    13. Anisimov (Cls - C,LW)
    14. Backlund (Cgy - C)
    15. Nielsen (NYI - C)
    16. Hudler (Cgy - LW)

    Round 21
    1. Stafford (Buf - RW)
    2. Grabner (NYI - RW)
    3. Gudbranson (Fla - D)
    4. Smith (Nsh - C,RW)
    5. McGinn (Col - LW)
    6. DeKeyser (Det - D)
    7. Scheifele (Wpg - C)
    8. Hertl (SJ - C)
    9. Strome (NYI - C)
    10. Staal (NYR - D)
    11. Malone (TB - LW)
    12. Gionta (Mon - RW)
    13. Clitsome (Wpg - D)
    14. Cogliano (Anh - C,LW)
    15. Neuvirth (Was - G)
    16. Shaw (Chi - C)

    Round 22
    1. Cooke (Min - LW)
    2. Umberger (Cls - LW)
    3. Kindl (Det - D)
    4. Johnson (Bos - G)
    5. Irwin (SJ - D)
    6. Cundari (Cgy - D)
    7. Murray (Cls - D)
    8. Salo (TB - D)
    9. Cowen (Ott - D)
    10. Zuccarello (NYR - LW)
    11. Greene (NJ - D)
    12. McBain (Buf - D)
    13. Killorn (TB - C,LW)
    14. Penner (Anh - LW)
    15. Dorsett (NYR - RW)
    16. Grigorenko (Buf - C)

    Round 23
    1. Granlund (Min - C)
    2. Lack (Van - G)
    3. Gunnarsson (Tor - D)
    4. Niederreiter (Min - RW)
    5. Khudobin (Car - G)
    6. Havlat (SJ - RW)
    7. Liles (Tor - D)
    8. Roussel (Dal - LW)
    9. Bailey (NYI - LW)
    10. Peverley (Dal - C)
    11. Berra (Cgy - G)
    12. Letestu (Cls - C)
    13. Morrow (Pit - LW)
    14. Ference (Edm - D)
    15. Larsson (NJ - D)
    16. Fraser (Tor - D)

    Round 24
    1. Enroth (Buf - G)
    2. Bouchard (NYI - RW)
    3. Bolland (Tor - C)
    4. Goc (Fla - C,LW)
    5. Orlov (Was - D)
    6. Chiasson (Dal - RW)
    7. Sbisa (Anh - D)
    8. Forsberg (Nsh - C,RW)
    9. Pageau (Ott - C)
    10. Brodie (Cgy - D)
    11. Ericsson (Det - D)
    12. Kennedy (SJ - LW,RW)
    13. Sekera (Car - D)
    14. Pirri (Chi - C)
    15. Paajarvi (StL - LW)
    16. Palmieri (Anh - C)

    Round 25
    1. Gormley (Pho - D)
    2. Kuemper (Min - G)
    3. Boychuk (Bos - D)
    4. Severson (NJ - D)
    5. Coburn (Phi - D)
    6. Raymond (Tor - LW)
    7. Wilson (Was - RW)
    8. Sutter (Pit - C)
    9. Theodore (Fla - G)
    10. Giguere (Col - G)
    11. Allen (StL - G)
    12. Couturier (Phi - C)
    13. Boyes (Fla - C,RW)
    14. Tatar (Det - C)
    15. Lindholm (Car - C)
    16. Tanguay (Col - LW)

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    Awesome! Thanks for all the hard work. Some interesting valuations here... But I won't say too much as I have a similar draft upcoming.
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    Thanks for posting this. Do you know if there are plans to include analysis in the guide like last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Thanks for posting this. Do you know if there are plans to include analysis in the guide like last year?
    That is precisely the exact same question I asked the big guy (Dobber) in a PM - still awaiting a response. Eagerly waiting for that analysis.
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    I can give a detailed analysis of my picks but a lot of that analysis will include a detailed recap of being sick to the point of nearly having to put my team on auto-pick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I can give a detailed analysis of my picks but a lot of that analysis will include a detailed recap of being sick to the point of nearly having to put my team on auto-pick.
    That would be much appreciated. Curious as to "Sick" as in feeling under the weather OR disgusted with your picks being pulled right under your nose each round, just like I felt in the Tier III league draft a week or so ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suvojitde View Post
    That would be much appreciated. Curious as to "Sick" as in feeling under the weather OR disgusted with your picks being pulled right under your nose each round, just like I felt in the Tier III league draft a week or so ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    And there's your reason to download the guide when the analysis is written
    I already have the guide! Problem is, everyone else did too. Lol. :-)
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    I have the same draft Wed night Dobbers Expert and I have the 1st overall pick and I see the guy who had the 1st overall pick went Ovy, goalie, goalie which was my plan as well. my only question is do you take Ovy over Crosby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Thanks for posting this. Do you know if there are plans to include analysis in the guide like last year?
    I really enjoyed reading this piece by our own Steve Laidlaw last year:
    http://stevelaidlawsports.blogspot.d...h-experts.html

    ... wish there was A Night with the Experts 2013

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomastop View Post
    I really enjoyed reading this piece by our own Steve Laidlaw last year:
    http://stevelaidlawsports.blogspot.d...h-experts.html

    ... wish there was A Night with the Experts 2013
    Yeah I read that as well and it was very well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Yeah I read that as well and it was very well done.
    I enjoyed reading it too.
    Great piece (aside from the actual picks themselves by Laidlaw, terrible).

    Always good to read people's thinking.
    I really miss Ma... he was one of a select few (handful) that I've ever witness execute a full-plan-strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I really miss Ma... he was one of a select few (handful) that I've ever witness execute a full-plan-strategy.
    Out of curiosity what do you mean by 'full plan-strategy' as I'd be interested to hear about any specific strategies.
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    Beauchemin in Rnd 5 seemed a bit early?? Over Keith, edler, pietrangelo to name a few. Grabovski in rnd 14 seems good value, i think he will be better than the 217 ranked player by the end of the year. For the premium on goalies, Reimer in the 12th might turn out nicely depending on the leaf net situation.
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    That was my thinking exactly with Grabovski in round 14 - great value for the round selected. I generally base my strategy in larger leagues (more than 12) on positional scarcity (particularly grabbing goalies early) and place the least emphasis on centers as they tend to be the deepest position. Getting the best value (or relative potential value) with your picks in this shark tank is critical.

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