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    I have been in conversation with the GM owning the 2nd overall pick. He said he will trade Duchene and 2nd overall pick for Seguin and the 14th overall. The catch is Duchene is $34 and Seguin is $9, either draft pick would be $2. With the rules below and my salary currently at $201. Would you accept this trade? I would still need to bid for a good LW and maybe RW. I am in win now mode as well.

    The rules for the league are:
    $300 H2H Salary Cap 16 Teams - Drop 8 per year
    Active: 15 (3-C,3-RW,3-LW,5-D,1-G)
    Reserve: 5 any position
    Injured: 2
    Rookie (NOT in NHL): 2 any position
    A - 5 points
    DG - 5 points
    G - 5 points
    GA - -5 points
    GWG - 10 points
    L - -10 points
    PIM - 1 point
    PPPTS - 5 points
    S - 1 point
    SHOG - 5 points
    SOG - 1 point
    W - 15 points

    My protected team going into this year is:
    C-Hodgson(6)Filppula(6)Giroux(21)
    LW-Ovie(83)Nyquist(5)
    RW-Seguin(9)Atkinson(5)Wheeler(6)
    D-Carlson(9)MDZ(7)OEL(6)Shatt(8)Josi(5)
    G-Rinne(9)
    R-Coyle(5)Kulikov(9)Scheifele(2)
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    PPG,PPA,G,A,PTS,SOG,PIM,+/-,GAA,S,S%,W
    F-Keller(42)Larkin(70)Zibanejed(102)Dvorak(20)RNH(11 4)Zacha(20)Seguin(20)PKane(220)Trochek(40)
    D-Theodore(20)TSmith(20)Hronek(38)Giordano(82)Lundkv ist(1)
    G-Shesterkin(20)
    R-MAF(20)Meier(29)Backstrom(1)Krebs(1)Radulov(75)Per unovich(1)
    16T-H2H(16/yr)
    Sal:$300
    A5 G5 DG5 GWG10 PIM1 PPP5 SHOG5 SOG1
    GA-5 L-7 S1 W10
    C-Barkov(65)Kuznetsov(15)Petterssen(8)
    LW-Ehlers(27)Panarin(27)Raymond(1)
    RW-Konecny(9)Hoffman(14)Kempe(1)
    D-Werenski(17)Klinger(46)Girard(8)TSmith(1)Yandle(22 )
    G-Saros(6)
    R-Turcotte(1)Holtz(1)Bean(1)Norris(5)Comtois(5)Roman ov(5)Addison(1)WEklund(1)

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    I like Duchene better than Seguin long term and you net yourself an upgrade in the pick. I like the deal. The cost won't hurt you all that much. I do this.

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    Duchene and a 2nd for me too.
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    3C/LW/RW, 6D, 2Sk, 2G

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    L: Benn, Rakell, Coleman, Goldobin, Weal, B. McGinn
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    Considering how low your salary currently is, I think its a no-brainer. I like Duchene more than Seguin and you get a much higher pick.
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    Dress 2C, 4W, 1F, 4D, 1G (Daily)
    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
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    That's a great deal for you.... How are salaries decided? Either way make the deal.
    20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary

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    You should do this deal 100%. No. 110%, it's that legit.

    Your team will be much better off. If it comes to a crunch I would drop Fillpula or Hodgson to make that trade.

    Picking second you'll probably get Drouin and if you feel you need left wing well, problem solved!
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    LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
    RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
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    BN-Zacha

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    I agree! I'd rather have Duchene than Seguin and the pick is a nice bonus.

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    take that trade now.
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
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    LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
    RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
    D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
    G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov

    under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton

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    Take it ! It's a good deal and you get a 2nd ov pick also WOW !!!
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    I'd do Seguin + 14th for just Duchene. Adding 2nd makes this way one sided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakedown View Post
    I like Duchene better than Seguin long term and you net yourself an upgrade in the pick. I like the deal. The cost won't hurt you all that much. I do this.
    Absolutely. Duchene is at least on par with Seguin, but that 2nd pick is a huge upgrade over the 14th. Even with the need to add two wingers, I still think you should be in great shape to improve your team by a substantial margin.

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    Personally Seguin>Duchene but the deal works out for you
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    Well thanks everyone for the input. He has now back tracked, so either he read this or was just pissing around. I will let you know of further talks as he says he will move one of his other C's instead. HAHAHA! Damn it!
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    D-Theodore(20)TSmith(20)Hronek(38)Giordano(82)Lundkv ist(1)
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    So the C he has that he would now move instead, is Little. That is a drop off for sure, but is it worth the gamble to get one of MacKinnon or Drouin?
    Basically it would be Little(9) + 2nd OA pick for my Seguin(9) + 14th OA pick.

    He does own Turris(6) and Henrique(6) as well.

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    He reduced the offer by a substantial amount. If you he thought it was close before, then this can't be close. Tell him if Duchene turns into Little then Seguin turns into Atkinson and see what he says.

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