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    Since it's a quiet Monday in August, let's speculate a bit about the NHL's future expansion and the draft that would follow it. Here's the rules from the 2000 NHL Expansion Draft:

    26 of the 28 teams existing in the league at the time of the draft were each allowed to protect either one goaltender, five defensemen, and nine forwards or two goaltenders, three defensemen, and seven forwards. The Atlanta Thrashers and Nashville Predators had their entire rosters protected, as they were the two newest franchises in the league, only being in existence for one and two years respectively.

    For teams protecting only one goaltender, there was no experience requirement for those left unprotected. For teams protecting two goaltenders, each goaltender left unprotected must have appeared in either 10 NHL games in the 1999–2000 season or 25 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. A goaltender had to be in net for at least 31 minutes in each game for the game to be counted against these totals.

    At least one defenceman left unprotected by each team had to have appeared in at least 40 games in the 1999–2000 season or 70 games in the 1998–99 season and 1999–2000 seasons combined. At least two forwards left unprotected by each team had to have met the same requirements.
    I couldn't find what the rules were regarding prospects.

    So using that criteria, who would your team be protecting when the NHL's potential expansion takes place?

    Here's my protected list for Pittsburgh Penguins:

    G: Marc-Andre Fleury (not my choice but going with what Shero would do)
    D: Kris Letang, Rob Scuderi, Paul Martin, Simon Despres, Brooks Orpik
    F: Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, James Neal, Chris Kunitz, Pascal Dupuis, Brandon Sutter, Beau Bennett, Craig Adams, Joe Vitale

    That would leave unprotected the following players:

    G: Tomas Vokoun
    D: Matt Niskanen, Robert Bortuzzo, Deryk Engelland
    F: Dustin Jeffrey, Jussi Jokinen, Tanner Glass, Matt D'Agostini

    What would your team's protected and unprotected lists look like?
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    If I was Lombardi, the Kings would be keeping:

    G: Quick
    D: Doughty, Voynov, Greene, Regehr, Martinez
    F: Kopitar, Richards, Carter, Brown, Williams, Toffoli, Stoll, Frattin, Pearson
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    Protect Player

    Steven Stamkos
    Martin St louis
    Jonathan Drouin
    Teddy Purcell
    Valteri Filppula
    Brett Connolly
    Alex Killorn = (This one was hard because of the Tyler Johnson, Tom Pyatt, Richard Panik. All good young player).

    Victor Hedman
    Matt Carle
    Radko Gudas (he is ready to do the Salo, Brewer Duty for less salary and he is younger)

    Ben Bishop
    Anders Lindback

    Unprotected player
    Johnson
    Panik
    Pyatt
    Labrie
    Palat
    Thompson
    Tyrell
    Crombeen
    Angelidis

    Aulie
    Barberio
    Brewer
    Lee
    Ohlund
    Salo
    Taormina

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    Anaheim:
    Goalie: Fasth, hiller
    Forwards: Getzlaf, Perry, Etem, Palmieri, Silfverberg, Bonino, Cogliano or Belesky
    Def: Fowler, beauchimen, lovejoy,
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    I will give the Oilers a poke, though there are lots of Oilers fans here who may have a different list then mine.

    G - Dubnyk
    D - JSchultz, Smid, Ference, Petry, Belov
    F - RNH, Hall, Eberle, Yakupov, Gagner, Perron, Gordon, Lander, Hemsky

    I am not too big on Boyd Gordon but MacT seems to be. Plus we would need SOMEONE to win us a draw or two at some point in the game. I like Lander and think he has decent upside so I would keep him over the two Ryans, Jones and Smyth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptaylorgoon View Post
    Def: Fowler, beauchimen, lovejoy,
    Lovejoy over Sbisa?
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    PHILADELPHIA FLYERS

    Here's my protected list for Philadelphia Flyers:

    G: Steve Mason (not that they care... but they sure ain't protectin' two. LOL)
    D: Mark Streit, Kimmo Timonen, Luke Schenn, Braydon Coburn, Nicklas Grossman
    F: Claude Giroux, Jakub Voracek, Sean Couturier, Brayden Schenn, Matt Read, Wayne Simmonds, Scott Hartnell, Zac Rinaldo, Vincent Lecavalier
    (I assume Scott Laughton is a prospect and not subject to expansion rules)

    That would leave unprotected the following players:

    G: Ray Emery
    D: Bruno Gervais, Erik Gustafsson, Andrej Meszaros, Chris Pronger (LOL)
    F: Jason Akeson, Adam Hall, Tye McGinn, Kris Newbury, Jay Rosehill, Max Talbot

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    The hockey news did this for all 30 teams in Nov 2012. If you want to compare your lists to what they did, the article is here:
    http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...decisions.html

    Not exactly the same because of changes in rosters, but still interesting to look at. [For Toronto, they had a debate about whether to protect Kardi, lol]

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    For Buffalo, I'd go:

    G: Miller & Enroth (I'm hoping Miller's trade value at deadline makes this worthwhile)

    D: Ehrhoff, Myers, Pysyk (if not a prospect), otherwise Weber

    F: Vanek, Ott, Ennis, Foligno, Hodgson, Flynn, Grigorenko (if not a prospect).

    The really sad part is I can barely find 7 forwards to protect. I'd be thrilled if an expansion team took Ville Leino and Drew Stafford.

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    Detroit Red Wings

    G: Howard
    D: Kronwall, Kindl, DeKeyser, Ericsson, Smith
    F: Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Weiss, Nyquist, Helm, Andersson, Tatar, Abdelkader, Franzen

    This draft wouldn't happen now anyway, which is why I'm leaving Alfie unprotected

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    G: The Monster
    D: Lashoff, Quincey
    F: Miller, Eaves, Tootoo, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Alfredsson, Emmerton
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    The salary cap would throw some interesting wrinkles into an expansion draft for sure. It would be interesting to see if some of those players with albatross contracts were left unprotected and to see which ones were snatched up and which ones were passed over by the new team. Also, with the proliferation of NMCs in recent years it would be interesting to see if any player with a NMC was picked up and then fought it and what the Union's stance on that might be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawMan View Post
    The salary cap would throw some interesting wrinkles into an expansion draft for sure. It would be interesting to see if some of those players with albatross contracts were left unprotected and to see which ones were snatched up and which ones were passed over by the new team. Also, with the proliferation of NMCs in recent years it would be interesting to see if any player with a NMC was picked up and then fought it and what the Union's stance on that might be.
    Very interesting point. I think in most cases, a player given an NMC is valuable and wouldn't be exposed.

    But there could be a few exceptions. I would think the Union would fight pretty hard for those that have a NMC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MolsonX View Post
    Very interesting point. I think in most cases, a player given an NMC is valuable and wouldn't be exposed.

    But there could be a few exceptions. I would think the Union would fight pretty hard for those that have a NMC.
    I know the CBA says that NMC mean squat for the purposes of a buy-out. But I did a quick glance and there doesn't seem to be anything in the agreement that I could see that addresses expansion.

    I think there probably are some players with NMC's with bad contracts that teams would like to dump. Look at Lecavalier and Briere. Didn't they have NMC's? I'm not sure about Luonogo, Heatley, Havlat - but I'm sure there are a few guys around that teams would love to dump.

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    For the Hawks:

    G - Crawford
    D - Keith, Seabrook, Oduya, Hjalmarsson, Leddy
    F - Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa, Bickell, Saad, Kruger, Shaw, Teravainen

    I'm not sure if Teravainen would need to be protected considering he's never played an NHL game so that would change to I dunno, Pirri? Morin? Not exactly established NHLers either so I don't know how that would work.

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    Has anyone noticed how bad this Expansion Team would be? Can you imagine two teams?
    Points only Keeper - Top 9F 4D 1G
    F: Ovechkin Aho Debrincat Hintz Konecny Horvat Bratt BTkachuk Hagel Novak Mercer WSmith Coronato
    D: Hamilton Doughty Burns Morrissey Klingberg
    G: Jarry Demko

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