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Thread: Settle The Dispute

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    10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers; Start 3C,3LW,3RW,1U,5D,2G
    G A PTS +/- PIM PPG PPA W SV% S


    Team A

    C- Crosby E.Staal/LW M.Koivu
    LW- Parise Semin Hartnell Kunitz
    RW- Kane Neal Kessel Alfredsson
    D- Edler Shattenkirk Goligoski Streit
    G- Rask Halak Backstrom Reimer Emery

    Team B

    C- Stamkos Backstrom Kesler O'Reilly
    LW- Ovechkin Zetterberg Eriksson Marleau Elias Ott
    RW- Yakupov St.Louis Iginla Brown Callahan
    D- Chara Markov
    G- Lundqvist Niemi Schneider

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    Team A for me
    11 team Keeper Points-Only League
    4C - 4LW - 4RW - 6D - 2G

    2013 1st Place, 2014 1st Place
    C= Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf
    LW=
    RW= Perry, Seguin, Ovechkin
    D=
    G= Rask
    Prospect: Silfverberg, Kuznetsov

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    At C:
    Crosby > Stamkos
    E.Staal = Backstrom
    M.Koivu = R.O'Rielly
    Kesler is left out because all he does it gets hurt.
    It's a push

    At LW
    Parise < OV
    Semin = Zetterberg
    Hartnell = Eriksson (Eriksson dominates in points, Hartnell will get a lot of PIM)
    Kunitz = Marleau
    The extra guys for team B push team B over the top here for me

    At RW:
    Kane > Yakupov
    Neal =St Louis (1 more year
    Alfredsson < Iggy (Iggy will play more and put up more secondary stats)
    Brown and Callahan are AWESOME in leagues that count hits but they are merely decent players in this setup. Still, gives the edge to team B

    At D:
    Edler = Chara
    Shattenkirk > Markov
    The rest of the D give this one to team A

    At G:
    Rask = Lundy (Lundy is the most consistent and best goalie to own in fantasy but Rask is good)
    Halak < Niemi
    Backstrom < Schneider (Backs gets hurt so much, Schneider will have more GS this year and he is the better goalie by far)
    Reimer and Emery are dead weight. They are not even considered starters on their teams and at best, they will be in a 1A/1B situation. And in a 10 team league, this is just a waste to have on your bench
    Team B wins this round

    I think Team B wins this matchup for sure. Team A might have a couple of bigger named players but team B is much deeper and a better all around team. If team B decided to trade Brown or Callahan, they could shore up the difference on D very easily and the win at the center position for team A was being very generous. I would easily take team B both now and 5 years from now.
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    C - Getzlaf, Tavares, J.Staal(LW), Duchene, RNH, Crosby
    LW - Kovalchuk, Hall, Benn, Hartnell, E.Kane
    RW - P.Kane, Seguin, Yakupov, Eberle, OV
    D - Keith, E.Johnson, Carlson, Karlsson, Burns
    G - Rask, Schneider, Rinne

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    Very Informative breakdown bballplyr321, Thanks +rep
    Last edited by tmurdeR; July 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM.

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    Each team needs work, most glaring is the D on team B. Team B's depth in all other positions gives it the edge IMO. Close though.
    F-Datsyuk,C.Giroux,Kopitar,Read,Duchene,Z.Kassian,St amkos,Voracek,Hall,Seguin,Eberle,Couture,Ladd,Vrba ta,Kunitz,Vanek,Jagr,Bozak

    D-Carlson,Hedman,Karlsson,Vlasic,Beauchemin,Pietrang elo,Shattenkirk,B. Smith,Ju.Schultz,Faulk,Erhoff

    G-Quick,Bishop,Neuvirth,Rask,Luongo

    F-G,A=1pt (14 count)
    D-G,A=1pt,+- (8 count)
    G-Win=3pts,T=1,SO=2,G,A=1 (3 count)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmurdeR View Post
    10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers; Start 3C,3LW,3RW,1U,5D,2G
    G A PTS +/- PIM PPG PPA W SV% S


    Team A

    C- Crosby E.Staal/LW M.Koivu
    LW- Parise Semin Hartnell Kunitz
    RW- Kane Neal Kessel Alfredsson
    D- Edler Shattenkirk Goligoski Streit
    G- Rask Halak Backstrom Reimer Emery

    Team B

    C- Stamkos Backstrom Kesler O'Reilly
    LW- Ovechkin Zetterberg Eriksson Marleau Elias Ott
    RW- Yakupov St.Louis Iginla Brown Callahan
    D- Chara Markov
    G- Lundqvist Niemi Schneider
    Here is how I would evaluate them...

    Centers: Team B (slight edge; depth)
    LW: Team B (slight edge; OV/depth puts over the top
    RW: Team A (Kane, Neal, Kessel all top-tier)
    D: Team A (slight edge; depth)
    G: Team B (Lundqvist, Niemi, Schneider; nuff said)

    Ultimately, it's a close call but I have to side with Team B. Both clubs have top-end talent, but the fact that Team B has much greater depth at the forward positions really turned the tide for me. Perhaps Team A is keeping too many goaltenders?
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    C: Getzlaf, Backstrom, Thornton, Kadri, B.Richards
    LW: Parise, Hall, Kunitz, Hartnell
    RW: Kessel, Neal(LW), MacKinnon, Hossa, Backes(C)
    D: Karlsson, Chara, Trouba, Burns, Krug, Boyle, Visnovsky
    G: Rinne, M. Smith
    Bn: Grabovski, Gallagher


    Farm: Kuznetsov, Nelson, Jurco, Samuelsson, Barber - Maatta - Lack, Grubauer

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    Its bad enough I have to compete against these two teams.....now I have to watch them stoke their egos over who has the best team....

    Why don't you just drop your pants and get it over with.

    Sigh..... team B will be hard to beat for many years in this league set up. Crosby has to play 82 games again some day for team A to make a run.....

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    im taking team b also. but really they are close enough that its gooing to come down to whos team stays healthy and whos team gets a bit lucky.
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
    4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

    C= crosby,m.koivu,malkin,zajak,grabovski,b.richards
    LW= ovechkin,nash,dubinsky
    RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,gagner,brouwe r
    D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson, smid
    G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

    FARM=kreider,grachev,enroth,kuznetsov,ennis,rundbl ad,bjugstad,radulov,montoya, adam,t.erixon,cowan,s.elliot,j.faulk,cormier,petro v,orlov,stone,eakin,grigorenko,silfverberg,brodin, atkinson,paajarvi,Nichushkin,mantha,jenner

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    Team B for me, and it's not that close. More depth (except on D), better depth players, the better top two goalies.
    12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.

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    Forwards: Malkin, Stamkos, Ovechkin, Hall, Kunitz, Benn, Spezza, Iginla, Backes, Gaborik, Brown, Weiss, Kesler, Whitney, Brassard, Ryder
    Defence: Letang, Schultz, Carle, Enstrom
    Goalies: Price, Lundqvist, Ramo

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    Team B, for me.

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    MAn that's close...........Team B for me, but barely.
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    D: Chara, Gonchar, Campbell, Seabrook
    G: Anderson, Holtby
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    Farm: Bennett, Eakin, R.Murphy, Orlov

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    Although I don't like the lack of defense, I'd roll with Team B.
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    Defensemen carry very little value in this league. Unless they are 60 point dmen.

    No trade value at all.

    EDIT: I guess what I am trying to say is that it is very easy to fill in the lack of Defense on draft day or through waivers.....

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    I'll take Team B.

    The forward categories are pretty evenly split (although I give a slight edge to B), but Team B will sweep the Goalie cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulcrum View Post
    Its bad enough I have to compete against these two teams.....now I have to watch them stoke their egos over who has the best team....

    Why don't you just drop your pants and get it over with.
    They do this every year....I swear they care more about getting more praise than the other, then they do actually winning the pool.

    I'll go Team B. The Stamkos/StLouis + Oveckin/Backstrom duos have too much potential. Good depth behind them(Tho I prefer team A's depth if we're strictly talking starting 3's at each position), great goalies. Good chance to repeat....but the pre-season favorite never wins in this pool.
    10 Team Roto Keeper League; 20 Keepers; Start 3C,3LW,3RW,1U,5D,2G
    Stats: G,A,Pts,ppg,ppa,pims,+/- ; W,sv%,svs
    C: Getzlaf, Duchene, Couture, Johansen, Desharnais
    LW: Hall, Benn, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Roussel
    RW: Seguin, Voracek, Bonino, Toffoli, J.Jokinen
    D: Subban, Doughty, Giordano, Barrie
    G: Price, Rask, C.Johnson, Holtby, F.Andersen

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