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    I got a list here. NHLers vs prospects. Points only just from W and SO. How would you rank these goalies from 2015 on. In other words, the next two years I don't care about.

    Jake Allen
    Ben Bishop
    Jonas Enroth
    Karri Ramo
    Antti Raanta
    Joacim Eriksson
    Viktor Fasth
    Frederik Andersen
    Niklas Svedberg
    John Gibson
    Petr Mrazek
    Mahnus Hellberg
    Matt Hackett
    Andrei Vasilevski
    Malcolm Subban
    Zach Fucale

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    I think it's important to analyze each team's depth in 2015/16. The order I have each team's goaltenders ranked is how I see them in two years. Guys in italics I don't see having any value during those two years. The overall ranking (#1-11) is how I see the guys on your list being valued in two years. Teams who have a solidified #1 signed longterm are at the bottom of the list for obvious reasons. Teams with murky goaltending situations offer a better chance of turnover, which is what you're looking for.

    1. St. Louis Blues
    -- If Halak is traded, look for Elliott/Allen to share duties in 2013/14. Elliott could re-sign in 2014/15, but it will be as Allen's backup.
    Jake Allen - RFA
    Jaroslav Halak - UFA in 2014/15
    Brian Elliott - UFA in 2014/15
    Jordan Binnington - RFA in 2015/16
    Niklas Lundstrom - RFA in 2016/17
    Paul Karpowich - UFA - will not be re-signed

    2. Anaheim Ducks
    -- Unlikely Anaheim keeps Hiller and Fasth. I expect Andersen to get first shot at the backup role, but Gibson is too talented to not take it away.
    John Gibson - RFA in 2016/17
    Viktor Fasth - UFA in 2015/16
    Frederik Andersen - RFA in 2014/15
    Jonas Hiller - UFA in 2014/15 - likely to be traded
    Igor Bobkov - RFA in 2014/15
    Marco Cousineau - UFA - will not be re-signed

    3. Tampa Bay Lightning
    -- Bishop/Lindback will share duties in 2013/14, but both face stiff competition from the likes of Vasilevskiy and Helenius in 2014/15. I'll give Bishop the edge for now, but I think Vas will be the guy eventually.
    Andrei Vasilevskiy
    Ben Bishop - UFA in 2015/16
    Anders Lindback - RFA in 2014/15
    Riku Helenius - RFA in 2014/15
    Cedrick Desjardins - UFA in 2014/15
    Mathieu Garon - UFA - will not be re-signed
    Pat Nagle - UFA - will not be re-signed

    4. Buffalo Sabres
    -- Is Miller staying or going? I don't see an Enroth/Hackett tandem getting the job done. However, one of them will be someone's backup. I think Miller gets traded before his contract runs out. He's ready for a fresh start elsewhere.
    Jhonas Enroth - UFA in 2015/16
    Matt Hackett - RFA
    Ryan Miller - UFA in 2014/15 - could possibly be traded
    Connor Knapp - RFA in 2014/15
    Nathan Lieuwen - RFA in 2015/16
    Andrey Makarov - RFA in 2016/17
    David Leggio - UFA - will not be re-signed

    5. Detroit Red Wings
    -- With Howard signed longterm, Mrazek is looking at a backup role once Gustavsson's contract expires. If Gus suffers another injury or can't get the job done, Mrazek will see some time in Detroit this season. I like Mrazek as a dark horse to steal a starting role because I'm not completely sold on Howard as a bonafide #1 goaltender.
    Jimmy Howard - UFA in 2019/20
    Petr Mrazek - RFA in 2015/16
    Jonas Gustavsson - UFA in 2014/15
    Jared Coreau - RFA in 2015/16
    Thomas McCollum - RFA
    Jordan Pearce - UFA - will not be re-signed

    6. Chicago Blackhawks
    -- Damn Khabibulin! There goes Raanta's chances for this season. If Crawford has another good campaign, expect him to re-sign longterm which will hurt Raanta's value. However, if Crawford prices himself out of Chicago's budget, Raanta could Niemi his way into a starting gig.
    Corey Crawford - UFA in 2014/15
    Antti Raanta - RFA in 2014/15
    Nikolai Khabibulin - UFA in 2014/15
    Kent Simpson - RFA in 2015/16
    Mac Carruth - RFA in 2015/16
    Alec Richards - UFA - will not be re-signed

    7. Calgary Flames
    -- I'm not even gonna try to analyze this situation. What a mess! I wouldn't touch a Calgary goaltender with a 10 foot pole. Ortio could emerge in 2014/15 if re-signed.
    Karri Ramo - UFA in 2015/16
    Reto Berra - RFA in 2014/15
    Joni Ortio - RFA in 2014/15
    Joey MacDonald - UFA in 2014/15
    Laurent Brossoit - RFA in 2016/17
    Miikka Kiprusoff - UFA in 2014/15 - expected to retire
    Leland Irving - UFA - will not be re-signed

    8. Vancouver Canucks
    -- Not much depth in the Vancouver organization. Schneider's gone, and Luongo's pouting. Who knows what's gonna happen? If Luongo stays, you know his backup will have minimal value. I think Eriksson has a good shot at supplanting Lack permanently.
    Roberto Luongo - UFA in 2022/23
    Joacim Eriksson - RFA in 2015/16
    Eddie Lack - RFA in 2014/15
    Joe Cannata - RFA in 2014/15

    9. Montreal Canadiens
    -- Other than Price and Fucale, there's really just mediocre depth in Montreal. Price is the Golden Boy, but I can see Fucale replacing Budaj in 2015/16 and getting his toes wet in the NHL.
    Carey Price - UFA in 2018/19
    Zach Fucale
    Peter Budaj - UFA in 2015/16
    Peter Delmas - RFA in 2014/15
    Mike Condon - RFA in 2015/16
    Robert Mayer - RFA

    10. Nashville Predators
    -- Pekka Rinne. Need I say more? Hellberg will be his backup, maybe this year if he completely outplays Hutton, but more likely in 2014/15. Not much value here.
    Pekka Rinne - UFA in 2019/20
    Magnus Hellberg - RFA in 2015/16
    Carter Hutton - UFA in 2014/15
    Marek Mazanec - RFA in 2015/16
    Chris Mason - UFA - will not be re-signed
    Chet Pickard - UFA - will not be re-signed

    11. Boston Bruins
    -- Rask will sign longterm shortly, so I don't see guys like Svedberg and Subban having much value in this organization. Johnson will backup this season, but I could see Svedberg stealing the job and ultimately becoming Rask's backup. Subban is a few years away.
    Tuukka Rask - RFA
    Niklas Svedberg - RFA in 2014/15
    Malcolm Subban - RFA in 2016/17
    Chad Johnson - UFA in 2014/15
    Adam Morrison - RFA in 2015/16
    Michael Hutchinson - UFA - will not be re-signed
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    Damn, that's one good post.

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    Reppie rep time.
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    I love it when posters give well thought out, detailed responses! This is why people come to dobber boards! Kudos.
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    Yeah. Just ridiculous.

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    Maya,

    Fantastic post!

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    Excellent post not much else to really say, except for Calgary. Jon Gillies is my sleeper to watch out for there. Imo their goaltender of the future, atleast from what he has shown so far. Still has some developing to do.

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    Tough to say much more then what Maya just posted although I do disagree with a couple of his guys that he has as in italics.

    I do believe that Andrej Makarov has value in a couple years in the Buffalo organization, even though he went undrafted. I believe this kid has true potential.

    Same can be said for Mac Carruth in Chicago. While I think his attitude is a bit too big for his head, he is a very skilled goalie and is one worth watching long term as well.
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    Maya gets voted for the best post of the year. That was VERY impressive.
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    Nice post man, rep given. I thought it was very interesting that the bruins got Chad Johnson to fill in for Rask's backup - was this the plan or do they want Svedberg to have some competition?
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