actually, we could include Strome in this debate if you don't mind hahaha I have a deal in place that gets me the 1st overall, just not sure which one of these three I want to include in the deal...
Mikael Granlund or Kyle Palmieri long-term?
14-team H2H league, almost everything counts to some extent ('fantasypoints' system) weighted so that all around players are just as valuable as one-dimensional scorers...
Thoughts?
actually, we could include Strome in this debate if you don't mind hahaha I have a deal in place that gets me the 1st overall, just not sure which one of these three I want to include in the deal...
Strome
Granlund
Palmieri
Yahoo 1 Year Leagues:
G, A, PIM, +/-, PPP, SOG, HIT
W, GAA, SV%, SHO
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2G, 4Bn, 1IR
Palmieri a distant third? NOT even close to being right, guys. First off, he's had the most NHL success thus far and is physically the most ready to withstand a full season. He's very, very strong, plus has a tremendous shot and may be able to play with Getzlaf and Perry for a bit.
Strome and Granlund are more likely to be boom or bust but may have potentially higher ceilings. But to rate them as both far better is sheer lunacy.
12 team Full Dynasty w cap. 13F, 7D, 2G, 5B.
G 4.25, A 2.75, PPP 1.5, SHP 3, Hits 0.4, Blocks 0.5, PIM 0.25, DFP 1
W 5 OTL 1 SO 6 SV 0.25 L-1 GS 1
F:Stamkos, C Stew, R Johansen, B Dubinsky, Max Pac, Umberger, B Ryan, D Backes, T Ruutu, Lucic, Ott, MSL, Heatley, C Kunitz, J Benn, L Adam
D: C Fowler, Kronwall, A Goligoski, JM Liles, M Giordano, K Letang, N Nikitin, R Josi
G: J Quick, A Niemi, C Anderson, Rinne
1. Granlund
2. Palmieri
3. Strome
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
I'll chip in on the side of 'sheer lunacy' as well. I like Palmieri, but I don't see him as a monster point producer. Solid, but not remarkable. Sure, he had very decent numbers for a 22 yr old in his first 'full' season (still not a full year under his belt), so I guess the question comes down to do you want middling points soon, or do you want a good shot at more? It will take Granlund some time to adjust (and I would expect Strome too), but we should have seen that coming.
Personally, Grandlund > Strome > > Palimieri
20-Team Keeper League
PTS: G=1, A=1, W=2, SO=3
Starting roster: 6F, 3D, 1G, *Keep 12 + 2 on farm
F: Kucherov, Scheifele, Eichel, Tarasenko, Rakell, Schwartz, Dadonov
D: Doughty, Josi, Ekman-Larsson, Keith
G: Hellebuyck
Farm: Tolvanen, Kaprizov
16-Team Keeper League
PTS: G=1, A=1, W=2, SO=3
Starting roster: 6F, 4D, 1G, *Keep 12 + 4 on farm
F: P Kane, Kessel, Pastrnak, Keller, Marchessault, B Schenn, Fiala, Kase,
D: Weber, Karlsson, Pietrangelo, Parayko
G: Rask
Farm: Kravtsov, A Boqvist, Necas, I Samsonov
Id rank them:
Granlund
Strome (Im not a fan of his)
Palmieri
So you guys are willing to take chances on upside when Palmieri seems to be at the worst a 50 point guy. I take the safe bet here and choose the better nhler at this point because upsides aren't far apart.
Palmieri >>Strome>Granlund
Strome is better than the other 2 combined. He shouldn't be in the discussion. It's not even remotely close. The other 2 are close. Granlund has had concussions and he's a little guy, but I probably still give him an edge over Palmieri.
I also gotta say that Palmieri is below Granlund and Strome. I can see the argument for a one year league but for a keeper I take the upside for sure and Granlund/Strome have much higher offensive upside IMO. For me, I like Granlund a hair more than Strome but it's close:
Granlund
Strome
Palmieri
13 team Roto keeper league 12 F, 6D, 2G, G,A,+/-, PIMS, Hits, TOI(D), GAA, SV%, (Forwards are forwards, no distinction between L,R,C)
F) Ovechkin, Stamkos, Kunitz, Parise, Byfuglien, Backstrom, Little, Gaudreau, Hudler, Brassard, Girgensons, Nelson
D) S. Weber, Phaneuf, Subban, Carlson, Josi, Vatanen
G) Rask, Jones
Seriously, anyone advocating Palmieri over Strome/Granlund in any type if keeper format is smoking more crack than Ford.
Strome/Granlund
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Palmieri
MounD - Double Threat FHL (18-19 champs)
10-Team Yahoo daily H2H Dynasty
3C, 3LW, 3RW, 6D, 2G, 7Bn (IR)
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK // W, Sv, GAA, Sv%, SHO
C: Bergeron, Barkov, Aho, Point, Kadri
LW: Marchand, Landeskog, Hertl, Marchessault
RW: Stamkos, Tarasenko, Laine, Palmieri
D: Carlson, Letang, Dumba, Weber, Pietrangelo, Ristolainen, Byfuglien*
G: Bobrovsky, Holtby, Lehner, Greiss-Varlamov
Farm: Turcotte, Cozens, Denisenko, Newhook // Sandin, Jokiharju, Dobson, K'Andre // Shesterkin