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    I give Ott and I get markov.

    its a 20 team dynasty league. 25 roster players. 30 farm. h2h nightly lineups.
    scoring: G,A,+-,PPP,SHP,GWG,SOG,FW,W,GAA,SV,SV%

    I won this past seasn and looking to repeat. I am looking to add more defensive power. I recently added cody franson, eric staal and Rask to make a stronger push to repeat, but I am thinking more defense help will go a long way. my issue with this is I really like OTT having c,w eligibility along with the added FW. I made a big part in dominating that stat going 11-1 this season for FW. Ott in the winger position adds a big amount. Markov though adds points and PPP. I went 6-5 this season in PPP. like I said I added franson and staal to help with the PPP.

    Do I make the trade?

    roster:
    Vincent Lecavalier (TBL)
    Eric Staal (CAR)
    Joe Pavelski (SJS)
    Jeff Carter (LA)
    Eric Belanger (EDM)
    Nik Antropov (WPG)

    Wingers:
    Alexander Ovechkin (WAS)
    Alexander Semin (CAR)
    Mike Cammalleri (CGY)
    Kyle Okposo (NYI)
    Alex Steen (STL)
    Steve Ott (BUF)
    Vernon Fiddler (DAL)
    Brad Boyes (NYI)
    Mats Zuccarello
    Matt Frattin

    Defense:
    Dustin Byfuglien (WPG)
    Dmitri Kulikov (FLA)
    Sergei Gonchar (OTT)
    Cody Franson (TOR)
    Ian White (DET)
    Andy Greene (NJD)
    Erik Gustasson (PHI)

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    Rask (BOS)
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    I'd rather have Ott. I'm waiting for Markov to repeat a season ending injury in Nov.
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    Ott is more valuable in that setup. Not a chance I'd move him for Markov.
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    Ott for me as well.....this is coming from a bitter X-Markov owner though

    You got a powerful lineup for a 20 Team league too I might add. Good job
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    Without hits and PIMs Ott obviously loses a lot of value. If you had those stats I'd be pretty against this deal, but without them I think it's a good deal. My big concern would be that Ott is pretty durable whereas Markov, until this year, was a walking injury. If Markov didn't have that concern though, the other GM would be asking for way more than just Ott. If you moved him for a less injury prone guy he wouldn't have the offensive ceiling of Markov. I think it's a good deal, until Markov hurts himself, but until then I'd go for it.
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    I might be wrong here but isn't Ott very replaceable in this format without hits and PIM? I mean, Markov can probably match his offensive output from a D roster spot. I would just gamble on Markov and hope he plays a reasonable amout of games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I might be wrong here but isn't Ott very replaceable in this format without hits and PIM? I mean, Markov can probably match his offensive output from a D roster spot. I would just gamble on Markov and hope he plays a reasonable amout of games.
    With him having fw's and him being winger eligibility he actually isn't so easily replaceable. Thought he would be but he isn't as easily as i thought.
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    Markov is getting up there in age and has had numerous seasons decimated by injury. I'm too scared to take a chance on him and would rather have the more consistent production of Ott, even if Markov provides higher upside.
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