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    Who is better going foward for the short and long term.
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    I'd go with Toffoli. He have seen NHL action at his 1st pro year and he have been able to produce. A lot of upside.
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    Unlike many who think Toffoli is a 65-75 type of guy, I believe that he has top end upside.

    While I think Conacher is a 60pt kind of guy.

    I like Toffoli long term to get in the neighbourhood of 80-90 and depending on his linemates lots of goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slow triathlete View Post
    Unlike many who think Toffoli is a 65-75 type of guy, I believe that he has top end upside.

    While I think Conacher is a 60pt kind of guy.

    I like Toffoli long term to get in the neighbourhood of 80-90 and depending on his linemates lots of goals.
    You really think Toffoli's got a chance at finishing in the top 10 in scoring? I certainly don't. In my view he would be reaching his upside if he ever approaches 70 points. Players that put up a PPG+ over a full NHL season are very special players.

    I would probably be inclined to run with Toffoli because he is highly regarded in the Kings organization and will get lots of chances to succeed but Conacher has proven he can put up points already, so this is close.

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    I'll go with Conacher myself. Toffoli is still a pipe dream until I see production from him.
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    I have high hopes for toffoli. I kept him over some good players in my league - and I even traded Ryan Strome to make room for him in my fourth center spot.
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    Toffoli is the better long term prospect. He is a pure goal scorer. He did very well in the AHL for being a 20 year old rookie, and now making an impact in the playoffs.

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    With PIM and hits counting I like Conacher, he is more proven and he has a mean streak. Having said that, I think Conacher's fantasy value took a hit when he moved to Ottawa so it is hard to gauge right now.
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    Thanks for all the feedback, I agree with pretty much all of it. My concern with conacher is that his scoring did drop off slightly in Ottawa, then he served as a scratch in several playoff games.
    I could be wrong but with the young talent in Ottawa I see conacher as a second line player - 50pts. But I think Toffoli could be a top line 50++pts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajiabu View Post
    Thanks for all the feedback, I agree with pretty much all of it. My concern with conacher is that his scoring did drop off slightly in Ottawa, then he served as a scratch in several playoff games.
    I could be wrong but with the young talent in Ottawa I see conacher as a second line player - 50pts. But I think Toffoli could be a top line 50++pts
    I like that your expectation are in a reasonable 50+/- point range. I personally like Toffolis sniping play, but like MSL has shown you can't count out a little undrafted guy with heart, like Conacher.

    I'm still going with TT though
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    Toffoli has the higher upside. He would be my pick hands-down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wendelclark17 View Post
    With PIM and hits counting I like Conacher, he is more proven and he has a mean streak. Having said that, I think Conacher's fantasy value took a hit when he moved to Ottawa so it is hard to gauge right now.
    He had 20 PIM and 39 hits. Not that much of a mean streak.


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    I also prefer Toffoli over Conacher.
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