Reply With QuoteUnless your pool in Goal weighted I would go with Seguin. I'm Eberle's biggest fan around here but Seguin will out score him in the future.
Seguin vs Eberle
Yahoo Dynasty pool with the usual categories.
I have been offered Tyler Seguin for Jordan Eberle.
Both have similar salaries....so that's not really a problem.
Looking for some input before I make any decisions.
Thanks
Unless your pool in Goal weighted I would go with Seguin. I'm Eberle's biggest fan around here but Seguin will out score him in the future.
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Both are great young talents but I go with Eberle - hard to pass up a piece of that future Oil machine. There's a good chance the Bs let Horton walk this summer and I don't see them being a huge scoring team. The Oilers on the other hand have potential to put up insane stats. Since the talent is on par here, this comes down to team and situation to me - Oilers, hence Eberle.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
I'd rather have Seguin at this point. His trajectory has been going steadily up since before he was even drafted, whereas Eberle has had his peaks and valleys. The thing that clinches it for me is that Boston is going to be a very solid team for the foreseeable future. The Oilers are poised to be amazing, but they haven't put it together. With all these guys on expiring ELCs at the same time it could all fall apart if they can't re-sign them.
16 team, full keeper
19 roster players, 15 prospects, 2 farm
Stats: G, A, PPG, SHG, special teams assists, SOG, FOW, PIM, hits, BS, Tk, +/-, W, SO, saves, s%, GAA, SO saves
C: Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos, H. Sedin, J. Staal, Hodgson
W: Perreault, Atkinson, Dorsett, Jagr, Burrows, Zuccarello, Hagelin, Condra
D: Karlsson, Keith, OEL, Hamonic, Gudas, Hejda
G: Price, Rinne
Prospects: Lindholm, Cassels, Perlini, Vesey, Sheahan, Teravainen, Jensen, Ceci, Koekkoek, Emelin, Kulikov, Rundblad, Grubauer, Kuemper
its very close. id go with seguin.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
I'd go with Seguin.
Jagr may not re-sign with Boston.
That puts Seguin back on the Bergeron line.
Remember - we are thinking "regular season" for fantasy hockey.
Seguin is definitely going to beat Eberle in:
*SOG
*+/-
(PIM is low for both).
So Eberle is going to have to beat Seguin in G,A,PPP significantly to make the two even in fantasy value.
Two category locks for Seguin vs. Zero category locks for Eberle.
Seguin.
This is a great summary of the deal for you..Originally Posted by Pengwin7
Additionally, I think somebody is getting a little skiddish with Seguin's playoff performance and looking to make a move.. I wouldn't be worried though!
In terms of the Oilers offensive prowess, I found myself thinking they would be an offensive dynamo this year, and same old story.
16 Team H2H League (Keep 6)
3C - 3LW - 3RW - 6D - 2G
2013 1st place, 2014 1st place, 2015 1st place
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, HIT, BLK GS, W, GAA, SV%, SO
C= Stall, Marchessault, Hayes, Suzuki
LW= Svechnikov, Goodrow, DeBrusk,
RW= P.Kane, Kucherov, Fiala, Johnson
D= Rielly, Borowieki, Fowler, Hagg, Murphy
G= Demko, Samsonov, Jarry, Allen, Shesterkin, Talbot
It remains to be seen, but I am wondering the same. There is a ton of pressure in Edm to succeed and if they don't as soon as YESTERDAY, some pieces will likely get moved and the team could look very different than it looks now in a very short period of time.
League:Fantrax 18 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats:G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, S, SV%, W, GAA
C: Backstrom,Giroux,MacKinnon,Seguin
W: D.Brown,Hartnell,Hossa,P.Kane
Kesler,Marleau,Perron,Zibanejad
D: Boyle,Del Zotto,Doughty,D.Hamilton,Hedman,Markov
G: Rinne
Bench: Braun,Comeau, Demers,DeHaan,Polak,Stempniak,Wingels --Fleury
I'm going to go with Eberle here. Eberle should be a consistant 70-75 point guy as for Seguin.. I just don't know.
Seguin is a player I try to avoid at all costs. Not because he isn't a great a player - he is just a player who I think has a very inflated value (in fantasy hockey). Not long ago there was a similiar thread on Seguin but instead of Seguin vs. Eberle it was Seguin vs. Hall. I will make the same arguement I made there as I will here.
Seguin at the very least is equal to Eberle in terms of what the two contribute to their NHL teams. It's a matter of which player contributes more to your fantasy team though.
Boston
has been - and will remain a defensively oriented team.
has great depth
has a great goaltender
Edmonton
has been - and will remain an offensively oriented team.
has little scoring depth
doesn't have great goaltending
I really feel like its as simple as looking at which team they are on. Edmonton depends on Eberle to score in order to win. Boston doesn't depend on Seguin to score in order to win.
And this is why I tend to avoid Seguin - his name and draft position hold a lot more value than his actual fantasy performances. I see a lot of fantasy poolies holding onto guys like Seguin (Bobby Ryan) waiting for the break out that might not ever happen.
Last edited by 3rtpaper; May 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM.
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2012-2013 Runner Up
ROTO
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2,G | G, A, PPP, +/-, PIM, BS, W, GAA, SV%
C: Getzlaf, Backstrom
LW: Hall, Tlusty
RW: Malkin, Lupul
D: Ehrhoff, Del Zotto, Enstrom, Carle
G: Holtby, Smith
Bench: Faulk, Druoin, MacKinnon, Brodin, S. Mason, Bernier
H2H Keeper League [5F, 1D, 1F/D 1G]
2013 - 3rd
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D,1 Ult, 1 G -H2H Daily Start - G, A, +/-, Hits, BS, PPP, SHP - W, SV, GAA, SO
F:Tavares, Landeskog, E.Kane, Backes, Yakupov, RNH/Kesler
D: Green/OEL
G: Rask
it's a fairly even trade, and it seems there is good replies and points for both, but I'd go with Seguin personally.
14 Team Dynasty League - 23 man roster, 25 man minors w/ custom cap, salaries & contracts
Skaters: (Start: 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D) - G/A/Pt/(+/-)/PIM/SOG/STP/TOI
Goalies: (Start 2) - W/GAA/SV/SV%
C: Schiefele, Zacha, RyJo, Patrick
LW: Guentzel, J.Robertson, Domi, Kempe
RW: Puljujarvi, Gurianov, D.Strome, Duchene
D: Ekblad, E.Karlsson, OEL, Morrissey, Jokiharju, Bear, Weber (LTIR)
G: MAF, Price, Driedger, Bishop (LTIR)
Minors: (25 max)
Skaters: Hayton, JAD, J.Boqvist, Dahlen, Bunting, Gusev, Damiani, Groulx, Poehling, Benson, Beaucage, Lind, Sprong,Stankoven, Ahcan, PO. Joseph, McIsaac Goalies: Wallstedt, UPL, Comrie, Ersson, S.Skinner, Skarek, Johansson
Wow, I'm pretty shocked at the Seguin love here. The kid is a very good player but I don't have faith in the Bs being an offensive powerhouse - am I missing something? Has Seguin ever outscored Eberle?
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
Glad I'm not the only one.. name value vs. actual fantasy hockey value.. this is how I win almost every single trade..
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2012-2013 Runner Up
ROTO
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2,G | G, A, PPP, +/-, PIM, BS, W, GAA, SV%
C: Getzlaf, Backstrom
LW: Hall, Tlusty
RW: Malkin, Lupul
D: Ehrhoff, Del Zotto, Enstrom, Carle
G: Holtby, Smith
Bench: Faulk, Druoin, MacKinnon, Brodin, S. Mason, Bernier
H2H Keeper League [5F, 1D, 1F/D 1G]
2013 - 3rd
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D,1 Ult, 1 G -H2H Daily Start - G, A, +/-, Hits, BS, PPP, SHP - W, SV, GAA, SO
F:Tavares, Landeskog, E.Kane, Backes, Yakupov, RNH/Kesler
D: Green/OEL
G: Rask
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