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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Robbie View Post
    OK Penguin, I now saw your table, but because it's in pdf I can't get it into excel to mess with it. o you know a trick to do so? Or can you post a spreadsheet with the data?

    Also, I believe you explained what the various numbers surrounding the stats were in a discussion last year, but if you can give some insight in the current layout that would be great.

    Send me your email address by PM.
    I'll send you the spreadsheet to tinker with.

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    If anybody else wants to be part of the
    Goalie
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    Analysis
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    Committee
    Organization

    (i.e. GOATCO)

    ... just send me a PM and I'll email you the spreadsheet.


    The algorithm I've set up so far is really, really close.

    Some steps for tinkering:
    1. On the far left, there are some red/green cells that align in purple rows.
    The purple rows are "goalie battles", where Yahoo "rank" has two goalies with nearly adjacent rank and, thus, very close total scores.

    2. The value in the red/green is the "player score" that slides in between those two ranks. As a summary:
    Yahoo Rank #307 Danny Taylor (CGY-G)
    Yahoo Rank #308 David Moss (PHX). I know he is a skater score = 62.34.
    Yahoo Rank #309 Josh Harding (MIN-G)

    So... I need to get Danny Taylor's score above 62.34 and get Josh Harding's score below that 62.34. There is also a G-Base score (brown) that I believe is a "base" amount credited to ALL goalies, just to benchmark them among the skaters.

    (A goalie with NO stats is pegged as Yahoo Rank #266-#304, which is some value between skater #264 Colin Greening, 63.25pts & skater #306 Clarke MacArthur 62.87pts. I've accurately pegged the skaters, so I know these are close to correct.)


    There's all kinds of numbers to tinker with.
    Once the Yahoo! formula is pegged, I think it can be analyzed and adjusted for greater accuracy.

    For example, Yahoo currently weights SO at approximately 4x more value than W.
    However, there was actually 7x more W than SO, so a better scoring evaluator would be to use that same 7x as the multiplier for SO.
    (*Note1: For actual scoring - the SO multiplier should be ~7x the W multiplier.)
    (*Note2: Though, with SO being a low quantity number and highly variable... the lower multiplier is probably best for projection valuations.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    If anybody else wants to be part of the
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    (i.e. GOATCO)

    ... just send me a PM and I'll email you the spreadsheet.

    I think you should consider calling it the
    Goalie Overall Analysis Tinker Squad of Excellence
    Without me, it's only "aweso".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    I think you should consider calling it the
    Goalie Overall Analysis Tinker Squad of Excellence

    I like that.... (I'll drop the "Excellence" though so we can just be G.O.A.T.S)
    LOL- nice!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I like that.... (I'll drop the "Excellence" though so we can just be G.O.A.T.S)
    LOL- nice!!!
    I'm good in math by I can't do algorithms and all. Therefore, I guess I will just buy a G.O.A.T.S t-shirt and support you guys that way!

    Awesome stuff Pengwin!
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    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-HITS-BLK-SHP-SOG-FOW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Barzal, Bennett, Schmaltz, Novak
    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
    D- Carlson, Rielly, Klingberg
    G- Hellebuyck, Demko, Merzlikins, Vejmelka

    Minors:
    F: Fantilli, Cooley, Bourgault, Perreault, Cowan, Ohgren, N. Foote, Goyette, Iskhakov, Denisenko, Tracey
    D: Simashev, Willander, Lambos
    G: Schmidt, Rodrigue, DiPietro, Gaudreau, McKay

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    I'll give this a shot:

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    10-Team, Custom Keeper. In this league GMs sign their own contracts at an auction for a specified price and term up to 4 years.

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    G(3) A(2.5) +/- (0.5) SOG(0.1) FOW/FOL (0.05) HTS(0.1) BKS (0.1)


    2C - McDavid, Pettersson, Barkov, Kopitar,
    2RW - Lindholm, Perron, Reinhart, Killorn
    2LW - Draisaitl, Svechnikov, Schenn
    3FWD From above FWDs
    6D - Karlsson, Dahlin, Gustafsson, Theodore, Edler
    2G - Varlamov, Greisss, Murray, Mrazek

    IR - Hamilton

    6FARM - Kakko, Mittelstadt, Francouz, Borgstrom

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    ...and I didn't see that the answers were already posted on a later page...

    Poor showing
    10-Team, Custom Keeper. In this league GMs sign their own contracts at an auction for a specified price and term up to 4 years.

    Points
    G(3) A(2.5) +/- (0.5) SOG(0.1) FOW/FOL (0.05) HTS(0.1) BKS (0.1)


    2C - McDavid, Pettersson, Barkov, Kopitar,
    2RW - Lindholm, Perron, Reinhart, Killorn
    2LW - Draisaitl, Svechnikov, Schenn
    3FWD From above FWDs
    6D - Karlsson, Dahlin, Gustafsson, Theodore, Edler
    2G - Varlamov, Greisss, Murray, Mrazek

    IR - Hamilton

    6FARM - Kakko, Mittelstadt, Francouz, Borgstrom

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAMZ View Post
    ...and I didn't see that the answers were already posted on a later page...

    Poor showing

    LOL.
    No worries... it was actually a tough little quiz I thought.

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    10 minutes and a calculator = 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by 27Blue View Post
    10 minutes and a calculator = 100%
    ???????????

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    Wish I had seen this earlier.

    I just did the quiz for fun and got 4/10... much lower than I expected considering the last 2 questions are freebies!

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