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    which side would you rather have? salary cap dynasty league.

    Perry, Parise, and Keith

    or

    B.Schenn, Skinner, JVR, and Clowe
    12 Team H2H 6x6 Pts keep 3
    C: Yadier
    1B: Morales
    2B: Kendrick
    3B: Rendon
    SS: Desmond
    OF: J.Upton, D.Brown, Gardner
    U: Victorino
    DL: Gyorko

    SP: Greinke, Miller, Moore, Teheran, Kuroda, Lincecum, Dempster, Hellickson, Arroyo
    RP: Chapman, Frieri

    DL: Cueto

    10 Team H2H 5x5 Pts keep 2(Weekly lineups)
    C: Yadier
    1B: Votto
    2B: Kipnis
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman
    SS: A.Cabrera
    OF: Trout, Harper, Craig
    U: Morales
    SP: Lee, Sale, Bumgarner
    RP: Kimbrel, Cashner


    BN: Goldschmidt, Heyward, Latos
    DL: H.Ramirez, Ogando

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    Perry, Parise, Keith.
    I'll always take the better players in salary cap leagues.

    The reason is because there are ALWAYS basement players emerging with value that make $1m or $2m.

    An example I use it this:
    $9m Ovechkin (80pts) + $1m JoeX (40pts)
    vs.
    $6m J.Staal (60pts) + $4m Hornqvist (50pts)

    $10m spent.
    120pts vs. 110pts.
    The JoeX players scoring at a 40pt pace is always out there... a bunch of them... every week, somebody new.
    You can always find the hot hand.
    And, if one of those JoeX's turns into a 50pt player (Pascal Dupuis? TJ Galiardi? Brandon Saad?) well, then you got yourself a major deal.

    Superstar + Scrub = Good Way to Go.

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    I'll take the Perry&Parise side easily !!!
    14 teams,Points only,Weekly H2H,Full Keeper,Salary cap league,Start 3F 2D 1G

    F :Ovechkin,Backstrom,Kessel,E.Kane,B.Richards,Conno lly
    D :Krug,Niskanen,Maata,J.Johnson,Vatanen,Sproul,Pulo ck
    G :Fleury,Smith,Lindback,Reimer

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    Perry, Parise, Keith.
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
    4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

    C= crosby,m.koivu,malkin,zajak,grabovski,b.richards
    LW= ovechkin,nash,dubinsky
    RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,gagner,brouwe r
    D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson, smid
    G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

    FARM=kreider,grachev,enroth,kuznetsov,ennis,rundbl ad,bjugstad,radulov,montoya, adam,t.erixon,cowan,s.elliot,j.faulk,cormier,petro v,orlov,stone,eakin,grigorenko,silfverberg,brodin, atkinson,paajarvi,Nichushkin,mantha,jenner

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    Perry , Parise and Keith.

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    Perry, Parise, and Keith. These guys aren't exactly old farts and they are some of the best players in the game right now.
    10 team full keeper: 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G,5BN,10IR

    G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
    W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO

    C- Getzlaf,Hanzal,Nielsen,J.Staal
    LW- JVR,Hudler,M.Richards,Zetterberg
    RW- Backes,Giroux,Kessel,Lupul
    D- Carlson,Chara,Gudas,Josi,Markov,Yandle
    G- Miller,Hiller,Crawford
    BN- Robidas,Havlat,Clarkson,Bogosian

    Prospects- Armia, Chiasson, Connolly, Couturier, Etem, Forsberg, Girgensons, Kucherov, Nieto, Nyquist, K.Palmieri, Rychel, Stransky, Toffoli, Wennberg, Barberio, Gardiner, Gormley, Kulikov, Marincin, Moore, Morrow, Nurse, Savard, Sproul, Vatanen, Allen, F.Andersen, Bernier, Campbell, Hackett, Mrazek

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    Perry, Parise, and Keith. Not enough WOW factor on the other option. Looks like a quantity for quality swap.

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    PPK for me too.
    14 team Rotisserie league (No positional requirements: 5 Keepers + 1 Rookie). Weekly starts. Active Roster consists of 6 FW, 4 D, 2 G and 5 Bench.

    Skaters: G, A, PIM, +/-, HT, BS, SOG
    Goalies: W, (.5)SO, (.5)SV

    Roster:
    FW: E Kane, P Kane, Hartnell, Kopitar, Callahan, E Staal, Clowe, Jagr, Huberdeau, Henrique, Voracek, J Carter
    D: McDonagh, E Johnson, Jackman, Greene
    G: Crawford, Reimer, Thomas
    Rookie: Nichushkin

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    Take the better players in that deal.
    Weekly H2H points only (Year 7 - 2013-14)
    12 teams limited keeper (keep 6 + 1 Rookie)
    13 round draft - Unlimited Trades - No Waivers - No IR
    4 Team Playoffs (last 2 reg. season weeks)

    Start : C RW LW Utility D D G
    Points are : A - G = 1 pt W = 2 pts SO = 1pt

    C - S.Stamkos, L.Couture, D.Stepan, M.Grigorenko
    LW - J.Tlusty, C.Wilson, B.Saad, C.Kreider
    RW - B.Wheeler, L.Eriksson, B.Bennett, M.Read
    D- E.Karlsson, B.Campbell, J.Johnson, D.Hamhuis, R.Josi
    G - A.Niemi, K.Lethonen, J.Reimer

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    I'm with everyone else here dobers. Don't give in to the young guy hype.
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    Team 1:10 Multi-Cat Roto league

    C- Malkin,Giroux,Thornton Galchenyuk, Schenn, Berglund, Eller
    LW- Hall,Ovechkin, E.Kane Saad
    RW- Seguin, Stewart, PAP
    D- Subban,Phaneuf Keith, OEL, Hedman,
    G- Pavelec,Hiller Lindback, Theodore, Lehner

    Team 2:24 H2H League Multi-Cat

    C- Weiss, Galchenyuk, Desharnais, Vitale
    LW- Parise, Bailey, Torres, King, Bissonnette
    RW- Ovechkin, Clowe, Asham, Gagner
    D- Boyle, Klesla, Souray, Hjalmarsson, Niskanen, Hickey, Lovejoy, Potter
    G-Holtby, Halak

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    if you wanted to go young the only way ild take side b was if they also got some prospect picks or something... even then.

    their salaries may seem like a steal now, but once they get their raises the 4 will probably have a much greater salary combo then the perry parise and keith

    And is the upside on a concussion problem player that\s success is essential to the deal worth it?
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    Parise, Perry, and Keith, I agree for the same reasons as everyone above.
    [SIZE="1"][FONT="Verdana"]10 team Cumulative Points Only - Keep 4
    G (3), A (2), +/- (1), PPP (1), PIM (0.25/min), S (0.4), H (0.2), Bs (0.2), FoW (0.1), W (4), Sv (0.2), SO (4), GA (-1)
    C - Anze Kopitar, Tyler Seguin,
    LW - Alexander Steen, JVR, Evander Kane
    RW - Jakub Voracek, Thomas Vanek, Bryan Little
    D - Erik Karlsson , Mike Green, Alex Pietrangelo, Mark Streit, James Wisniewski
    G - Jonathan Quick , Jonathan Bernier, Braden Holtby

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    Thanks for the responses and input boys! Yeah, that was what I was figuring as well, just a little tempted by some youth. Cheers!
    12 Team H2H 6x6 Pts keep 3
    C: Yadier
    1B: Morales
    2B: Kendrick
    3B: Rendon
    SS: Desmond
    OF: J.Upton, D.Brown, Gardner
    U: Victorino
    DL: Gyorko

    SP: Greinke, Miller, Moore, Teheran, Kuroda, Lincecum, Dempster, Hellickson, Arroyo
    RP: Chapman, Frieri

    DL: Cueto

    10 Team H2H 5x5 Pts keep 2(Weekly lineups)
    C: Yadier
    1B: Votto
    2B: Kipnis
    3B: Ryan Zimmerman
    SS: A.Cabrera
    OF: Trout, Harper, Craig
    U: Morales
    SP: Lee, Sale, Bumgarner
    RP: Kimbrel, Cashner


    BN: Goldschmidt, Heyward, Latos
    DL: H.Ramirez, Ogando

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