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    Pretty good first season with the rangers what do you think his point projection is going forward? I put him at 75-85
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    83 points max and 70 points on the low end, unless he gets hurt or shits the bed
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    I'll be the first to admit he wildly surpassed my expectations.

    Having said that I'm still pegging him as a 70 point guy next season.

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    42 points in 44 games. Less time for a slump, TBH next year I basically expect his Columbus numbers. So 65-75, no change.

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    Rick Nash is a point-per-game player, I think.
    He'll play with either B.Richards or Stepan.
    And NYR's PP defensemen puck movement can still improve.

    I'd buy Nash for 75-80pts, going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Rick Nash is a point-per-game player, I think.
    He'll play with either B.Richards or Stepan.
    And NYR's PP defensemen puck movement can still improve.

    I'd buy Nash for 75-80pts, going forward.
    I second this. Regardless of how the playoffs pan out the Rags need to improve that PP next season. He's a lock for 70 on his own on this team, as long as management addresses the personnel and strategy issues he'll get his extra 10 points.

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    I would draft Nash as a 65-75 point player. He looked better this year but I think this was more of a "I have to prove myself season". Unless the Rangers get a new coach Nash has a very defined ceiling.

    By me saying Nash is a 65-75 player I know I won't be able to draft him in any 1 year leagues because some one is always much higher on Nash than I am.
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    draft as a 65-75 point player with consistency, expect one explosive season. maybe 85.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Rick Nash is a point-per-game player, I think.
    He'll play with either B.Richards or Stepan.
    And NYR's PP defensemen puck movement can still improve.

    I'd buy Nash for 75-80pts, going forward.
    I'd agree. He was the team's most consistent performer despite the constantly shifting landscape among forwards. He's had Tortorella's trust for the entire season, a feat that should not be overlooked. He's a high-volume shooter (2nd in the league in shots per game). He finally showed a modicum of chemistry with a talented playmaking centerman (Stepan). He had a historically terrible season on the PP (for him), a feat that should also not be overlooked.

    I think this was an average season from him, to be honest. I don't think he was materially better in a hockey sense than the last three seasons in Columbus (averaged 64 points), he just played for a superior team. That's worth at least 10 points over a full season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaborlick View Post
    draft as a 65-75 point player with consistency, expect one explosive season. maybe 85.
    I can agree with this.. although I don't really see him having an explosive season under Tortz - he certainly has the ability to post an 85 point season though.

    This all just further shows why I don't think poolies should draft Nash. In every league someone is expecting that 85 point season and will draft him as an 85 point guy. I've always found that Nash gets drafted as if he is a consistant PPG player not a a 65-75 point player who has potential to be a PPG player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rtpaper View Post
    I can agree with this.. although I don't really see him having an explosive season under Tortz - he certainly has the ability to post an 85 point season though.

    This all just further shows why I don't think poolies should draft Nash. In every league someone is expecting that 85 point season and will draft him as an 85 point guy. I've always found that Nash gets drafted as if he is a consistant PPG player not a a 65-75 point player who has potential to be a PPG player.
    I'm in the boat of envisioning higher point totals from him. Always loved the guy as a player, and he's an enormously helpful asset in my league regardless if he gets to PPG+ in a season because it counts SOGs. Yours doesn't from what I remember of the sig, and that does change his value quite dramatically. An obvious point, but league setup certainly matters with a lot of players; Nash is no different.
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