Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: What makes you guys think Karlsson won't just be another Green?

  1. #1
    Rep Power
    15

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default What makes you guys think Karlsson won't just be another Green?

    I'm curious to see why you guys think so!
    Dynasty 12-Keeper League 27-player roster.. Most points at end of season. Must drop 5 at end and then draft 5.

    Rosters: 17 Fwd, 7 D, 3 G
    Player: G A +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG PPA SHA
    Goalie: W OTL SOL SO

    FWD: Datsyuk, Parise, Kessel, Kesler, Stepan, Saad, Lehtera, Spezza, Dubinsky, Franzen, Dupuis, Parenteau, Moulson, Chiasson, Soderberg, Eriksson, Hoffman, Kuznetsov

    D: Karlsson, Giordano, Yandle, Edler, Josi, Schultz

    G: Lehtonen, Anderson, Bobrovsky

  2. #2
    Location
    Regina, SK...EH!
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Icon

    Default

    ..pedigree

    EK has had the hype since he was a junior in Sweden, and then still when he was in the SEL.

    i watched Green for a couple of years in Saskatoon, and he was never a dominant scorer there.
    ESPN Roto 10 team
    24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
    Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
    G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%

    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Foerster, Michkov, Kakko, Toffoli
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
    D- Minyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
    G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
    IR- Norris(C)
    IR- Fantilli(C)
    IR- Quinn(RW)
    Picks in 2024/25 rounds 1,1,1,2
    Picks in 2025/26 rounds 1,1,3,4




  3. #3
    cdubb's Avatar
    cdubb is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,320
    Rep Power
    27

    Dobber Sports Ace

    Default

    Green's rise had partly to do with his talent, and his situation (high scoring potent Caps offense with OV, Backstrom, Semin).

    Then he got nagging injuries, and Caps went to different system, and all the star players stats suffered.

    With Karlsson, he drives the teams offense from the backend, like a Paul Coffey/Brian Leetch type. He literally transformed Sens from 2nd last in scoring in 2010-11 to a top 4 scoring team last year, despite only having Spezza and to a lesser extent Michalek as talented scorers.

    Sens are back to bottom 3 offense this year with 109 goals, only behind Nashville (108) and Florida (109).
    Last edited by cdubb; April 24, 2013 at 10:24 PM.
    Semi-retired

  4. #4
    Location
    Niagara
    Rep Power
    20

    Dobber Sports Stud

    Default

    Coach has a system in play to allow Karlsson to excel..

    Have you watched him skate?

    He did it on a team with a lack of scoring depth..

    Green himself has said that he had to change the way he played the game because of injuries, where there is no need for Karlsson at this point..
    16 Team H2H League (Keep 6)
    3C - 3LW - 3RW - 6D - 2G

    2013 1st place, 2014 1st place, 2015 1st place
    G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, HIT, BLK GS, W, GAA, SV%, SO
    C= Stall, Marchessault, Hayes, Suzuki
    LW= Svechnikov, Goodrow, DeBrusk,
    RW= P.Kane, Kucherov, Fiala, Johnson
    D= Rielly, Borowieki, Fowler, Hagg, Murphy
    G= Demko, Samsonov, Jarry, Allen, Shesterkin, Talbot

  5. #5
    Location
    Philly
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Legend

    Default

    1. Karlsson's talent, hockey sense, skills are among the elite on the planet (regardless of position). Green is good and was a rover (at his peak) but is not nearly as skilled as Karlsson.

    2. Coaching staff and system allows Karlsson to do his thing, which is generate the Sens offense and run a PP.

    3. Confidence - Karlsson has it in spades. He's the closest thing I've seen to a young Brian Leetch in many years.
    8-GM / WK-H2H
    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

  6. #6
    Rep Power
    0

    Dobber Sports Prodigy

    Default

    Karl creates his own offense

  7. #7
    PrairieDog's Avatar
    PrairieDog is offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    6,799
    Location
    A Pale Blue Dot
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Icon

    Default

    Its been explained pretty well, but just watch the guy play.

    Elite skater, has great puck control, great shot, great passer...and like fungchen3 said, he has a ton of confidence. He's also a very good defensive player, something Green has never been (not even close). He's very aware of what he can do and he does it with style. Maybe even a little cocky but he walks the walk. All this and he is only 21 years old.

    Its will be a lot of fun watching this guy as he matures, hopefully he can stay healthy because he is just a treat to watch. His injury this year was a loss to the whole game of hockey, and I am totally amazed that he could even be skating again so soon, never mind ready for NHL action (There is no way the team would let him out there if wasn't totally healed, so he must be, but I still can't believe it, such a major injury).
    12 Team Dynasty, H2H (points)
    Dress 2C, 4W, 1F, 4D, 1G (Daily)
    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
    Fm - Bordeleau, Barlow, Lucius, G.Perreault, Luneau, Perunovich, Nikishin

  8. #8
    Atomic Wedgy's Avatar
    Atomic Wedgy is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    7,102
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default

    I was just gonna say with PD did. Watch the kid play. He's pretty much the best player on the ice every game. Green was never that. He scored shit loads, but he was certainly not in the discussion for the best player on the ice. Mostly likely not even the best defenceman. That is why he didn't win the Norris and Karlsson did.

  9. #9
    Rep Power
    33

    Dobber Sports Guru

    Default

    it's all confidence. if he loses his swagger he'll be just like Green. avoiding injuries will be key.

  10. #10
    Vancityguy's Avatar
    Vancityguy is offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,089
    Rep Power
    22

    Dobber Sports Padawan

    Default

    He doesn't drive a pink scooter

  11. #11
    Location
    Philly
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Legend

    Default

    If Karlsson was manning a point for the Caps in 09-10 when Green bagged 76, Ovie 109 and Backstrom 101, he would have scored between 88-95 as a DMan.
    8-GM / WK-H2H
    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

  12. #12
    Atomic Wedgy's Avatar
    Atomic Wedgy is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    7,102
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default

    AO and Backstrom would have scored more as well.

  13. #13
    Rep Power
    37

    Dobber Sports Pro

    Default

    Karlsson: Elite level hockey sense and elite level fitness/conditioning. 'nuff said.

  14. #14
    Location
    Toronto
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Guru

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Vancityguy View Post
    He doesn't drive a pink scooter
    This made me chuckle.

    re the OP, I dont have anything more to add to what has already been said.

  15. #15
    Rocky71's Avatar
    Rocky71 is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    1,371
    Rep Power
    23

    Dobber Sports Ace

    Default

    One of my favorite players to watch. Kid has supreme hockey sense, his skating is effortless, and he runs the Senators.

    Could his production drop? Certainly, but if healthy I'd expect to see his name close to, if not top of the list.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •