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    Sorry to start a new thread on these two guys, but I need to share some observations I've made in asking the question. I've done a fair amount of reading on both of these guys and while both promise to be impact players when they arrive, there seems to be two schools of thought on how they compare. I've read a number of accounts that rank Myers clearly over Taveras (the top 250 prospects list on this site for starters), but I've also read other accounts that put Taveras as the clear winner. Why the disparity? I know it's largely speculation about how a top prospect will translate his game to the major leagues but there are some credible people out there speaking pretty casually about how much better one is than the other. I'd understand if most were saying they are a wash, but in some cases, they are presented almost like they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as each other. But there is no real consistency on who is being spoken of as the favourite.

    At the end of the day, I've got the #1 waiver claim and I'm waiting to use it on one of them when they get called up. I won't get both though. Anyone feel strongly enough about either of them to convince me one way or the other? I want my decision to be made before the day comes.
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    I feel like Taveras is in the better organization and one that really knows how to develop players. Tampa Bay doesn't have the best lineup, whereas St. Louis will always be competitive and have a balanced attack. I think both will be studs, but if I had to pick one to be better without question I would side with Taveras. Myers could be the star and Taveras could be a Carlos Gonzalez type superstar.
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    This confused the hell out of me for a few minutes until I realized I had stumbled into the baseball forum section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    This confused the hell out of me for a few minutes until I realized I had stumbled into the baseball forum section.
    Yes. Wil Myers and Oscar Taveras...
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    taveras

    myers will put up better numbers at first. if you are in a keeper, wait on taveras.

    i've seen myers/j bruce comps, which make sense to me, and i've seen taveras cargo comps, which also make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    This confused the hell out of me for a few minutes until I realized I had stumbled into the baseball forum section.
    Phew...I'm glad you said this and eliminated the need for me to admit I felt I had gone back in the past...then realized...in what universe or space time continuum was Tavares ever compared to Tyler Myers?

    lol....oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    Phew...I'm glad you said this and eliminated the need for me to admit I felt I had gone back in the past...then realized...in what universe or space time continuum was Tavares ever compared to Tyler Myers?

    lol....oops.
    I'm just glad you guys figured it out before you had me red flagged and my account shut down. I went back and read it as though it was Tyler Myers and John Taveras, and it definitely would have been worthy of such.
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    Until I read this thread I didn't even realize it was up for discussion. Everything I've read has Tavares ahead. The rankings on the Dobber site do not jive very well with many (any) of the established baseball prospect sites out there. Bauer is still the number one guy on the Dobber top 250 and I'm left scratching my head. I realize there's a note at the start mentioning how guys in the majors are bumped up but I simply don't get it. What good does this do for anyone trying to get their head around baseball minor leaguers? If I was to enter an established keeper league and offer up Bauer for Tavares I might just risk getting the boot before I'd had time to unpack.

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    So in a 1 year league...my current OF is:

    Pence
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    and Brown (is he cooling off finally?)

    with Multi Cat Frazier as insurance.

    We start 3 OF and 1 Utility.

    Is Myers with the pick up to me? And who to drop.

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    Can't touch my pitching unless I ax Chris Perez (who was a well timed grab, but hardly needed as I have Kimbrel, Chapman and Henderson as closers.

    (I also am considering Beachy...but I already have Hudson, Maholm and just dropped Tehren).

    Is that too many questions? Let's focus on Myers. Worth it on my team or stand pat? (I'm currently 2 pts out of 1st and near tops for R, HR, RBI and top 3rd for Steals.)

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    I've been really impressed with Myers and I think he's the better prospect of the two after having some time to evaluate him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4T2 View Post
    This confused the hell out of me for a few minutes until I realized I had stumbled into the baseball forum section.
    Holy smokes, glad I read this post. Initially I thought I had stumbled into a Tyler Myers vs John Tavares topic, and I was baffled because I thought it's an easy JT no question. Anyways back to hockey land.
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    Should I still be looking at Taveras as the can't miss prospect?? A team in contention just offered him plus some picks to me and I'm very intrigued. Team in sig
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    What is the offer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmvincent View Post
    What is the offer?
    Well this goes back to another thread of mine but the offer is Craig for a 1st and Taveras. Potentially having Harper, Kershaw, Xander and Taveras is making my mouth water right now.....

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