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    Question Big Trade! Help!

    EDIT: new trade

    I give: E. Staal, P. Kane, Backes, Niemi

    I get: Stamkos, Seguin, Oshie, Lehtonen

    Head to Head Keeper, counts G, A, +/-, SHP, SOG, Hits


    What do you think?
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    i am not sure i understand the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    i am not sure i understand the question
    Would you give up Staal and Perry for Malkin and Eberle?

    Prior to this season, I would have said yes in a heartbeat. Right now, I'm unsure based on how said players are producing.

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    in an 8 team league with 8 keepers per team you are asking if you should be trading for one of the top 3 players in fantasy hockey and not have to give another one of the top 3 players in fantasy hockey in return

    does that about sum things up

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    in an 8 team league with 8 keepers per team you are asking if you should be trading for one of the top 3 players in fantasy hockey and not have to give another one of the top 3 players in fantasy hockey in return

    does that about sum things up
    Yes, but I'd also be giving up two top keepers for one, both of which are outperforming Malkin on a per-game basis this season.

    ...I think it's a fair question?

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    To me it's an easy decision but it really depends on the scenario.

    If you're contending this year than it doesn't make sense unless you truly feel there is a better team than yours and that you have no chance of winning.

    If you're not contending than this makes perfect sense as Malkin is injured and Eberle is playing like garbage.

    To say that you're only getting one keeper is a little far fetched as well as I'd strongly consider Eberle to be one of your keepers even if he's playing like utter trash.

    In short:

    For the rest of this year: Perry>Malkin and Staal>Eberle

    Next year and beyond: Malkin>>Perry and Staal=Eberle (close anyways)
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    i still dont understand how 30 games makes this decision go from a no brainer to a no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    i still dont understand how 30 games makes this decision go from a no brainer to a no thanks
    It doesn't. It makes it go from a 'yes', to a rational review of the trade as I'd be losing two top players, each of which have put up huge seasons in the past as well.

    At a bit of a roadblock right now anyway, he doesn't want to lose the RW-eligibility of malkin so trying to figure out alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcairns View Post
    It doesn't. It makes it go from a 'yes', to a rational review of the trade as I'd be losing two top players, each of which have put up huge seasons in the past as well.

    At a bit of a roadblock right now anyway, he doesn't want to lose the RW-eligibility of malkin so trying to figure out alternatives.
    it is freaking malkin for crying out loud

    forget alternatives this guy is trying to bait and switch you

    walk away from the table if malkin is off the table

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    it is freaking malkin for crying out loud

    forget alternatives this guy is trying to bait and switch you

    walk away from the table if malkin is off the table
    No, Malkin is still on the table. No bait and switch, rather me adjusting the offer so he doesn't lose a position eligibility.

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    adjusting the offer to what exactly

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    Depending on the counter, I would easily say yes to the original deal. Unless you're in contention and this takes you out if the running somehow.

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    Negotiations fell through due to position problems, but in the meantime I've cooked up a new deal with another player. He said he has to "sleep on it", and with stamkos being held off the scoresheet tonight maybe that will help sway his opinion.

    I give: E. Staal, P. Kane, Backes, Niemi

    I get: Stamkos, Seguin, Oshie, Lehtonen

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    Love this deal for you. Too bad you missed out on Malkin.
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