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    I picked him up on the cheap during the offseason (gave up a 2nd round pick for him), with the intention of packaging him with someone else (possibly Marleau) for a top LW keeper. However, I'm beginning to wonder if I would be better served by hanging on to him. He seems to have figured out what it means to be a pro, with all the talk of his offseason training program, and it's paying off in spades early on. Would you rate him among the top 5-10 young LWs in the game?

    Another concern is whether or not he'll lose LW-eligibility in the future, so might have to move him for a straight up LW anyway...
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    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    He has a similar skill set to Pat Kane. I'm high on him.
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    Active Roster consists of: 6 FW, 4 D, 2 G and 6 Bench.
    Scoring Cats: G (10x), A (10x), SOG (10x), HT (10x), BS (10x), PIM (10x), TK (10x), +/- (5x); W (10x), SV (10x), SO (5x)

    FW: ​Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Keller, Jarvis, Barbashev, Kyrou, Raymond
    D: Dobson, Nurse, Sergachev, Andersson, Zadorov, York
    G: Oettinger, Raanta, Copley, Vejmelka
    IR: Hamilton
    Farm (165 games for F/D and 100 games for G): Wolf, Fantilli

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    He hasn't lined up at LW all year, so I wouldn't count on him retaining LW eligibility. He's a true center. From what I recall, he was tried on wing last year when he was struggling with injuries to give him a jump start.
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    C: Crosby, Duchene, Galchenyuk, Stamkos
    LW: Gusev, Huberdeau, Teravainen, M. Tkachuk
    RW: Kucherov, Rantanen, Tarasenko
    D: Carlson, Ekblad, Gudas, Hedman, Werenski, Yandle
    G: Holtby, Murray

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    Quote Originally Posted by rticinelli View Post
    I picked him up on the cheap during the offseason (gave up a 2nd round pick for him), with the intention of packaging him with someone else (possibly Marleau) for a top LW keeper. However, I'm beginning to wonder if I would be better served by hanging on to him. He seems to have figured out what it means to be a pro, with all the talk of his offseason training program, and it's paying off in spades early on. Would you rate him among the top 5-10 young LWs in the game?

    Another concern is whether or not he'll lose LW-eligibility in the future, so might have to move him for a straight up LW anyway...
    Duchene has been criminally undervalued recently. This kid put up 67 points his 2nd year in the league and was well on his way to becoming a star. Last season was an unmitigated disaster, he was recovering from an injury and his confidence hit an all-time low as things simply went off the rails. He's back with a vengeance this year and is proving to be a force to be reckoned with. I know he qualifies at LW in Yahoo but he's really a centre. I'm not sure how shallow a league would have to be before he wouldn't be considered a keeper. I'm predicting 75-85 point seasons for this kid in the very near future

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    Might be worth moving him for a true LW, then. Maybe someone like Evander Kane?
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    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    Quote Originally Posted by rticinelli View Post
    Might be worth moving him for a true LW, then. Maybe someone like Evander Kane?

    I was going to reply "Are you nuts?" until I see that you already have Crosby, Malkn and Tavares at centre. So in your unique situation, I would sell Duchene to the highest bidder.
    12 team Rotisserie league (No positional requirements: 7 Keepers of which 2 must be Farm eligible).
    Active Roster consists of: 6 FW, 4 D, 2 G and 6 Bench.
    Scoring Cats: G (10x), A (10x), SOG (10x), HT (10x), BS (10x), PIM (10x), TK (10x), +/- (5x); W (10x), SV (10x), SO (5x)

    FW: ​Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Keller, Jarvis, Barbashev, Kyrou, Raymond
    D: Dobson, Nurse, Sergachev, Andersson, Zadorov, York
    G: Oettinger, Raanta, Copley, Vejmelka
    IR: Hamilton
    Farm (165 games for F/D and 100 games for G): Wolf, Fantilli

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ Flex View Post
    I was going to reply "Are you nuts?" until I see that you already have Crosby, Malkn and Tavares at centre. So in your unique situation, I would sell Duchene to the highest bidder.
    Not to mention Giroux, who might also lose RW eligibility at sometime in the future (though, I'm not selling him).

    Some LWers who I thought might be worthy are Parise, Hall, E. Kane or Ryan...
    15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
    Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie


    C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
    L - Duchene* (C/L),
    Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
    R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
    D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
    G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper

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    Quote Originally Posted by rticinelli View Post
    Not to mention Giroux, who might also lose RW eligibility at sometime in the future (though, I'm not selling him).

    Some LWers who I thought might be worthy are Parise, Hall, E. Kane or Ryan...
    Sure. I think they are all fair value for Duchene.
    12 team Rotisserie league (No positional requirements: 7 Keepers of which 2 must be Farm eligible).
    Active Roster consists of: 6 FW, 4 D, 2 G and 6 Bench.
    Scoring Cats: G (10x), A (10x), SOG (10x), HT (10x), BS (10x), PIM (10x), TK (10x), +/- (5x); W (10x), SV (10x), SO (5x)

    FW: ​Draisaitl, Pastrnak, Keller, Jarvis, Barbashev, Kyrou, Raymond
    D: Dobson, Nurse, Sergachev, Andersson, Zadorov, York
    G: Oettinger, Raanta, Copley, Vejmelka
    IR: Hamilton
    Farm (165 games for F/D and 100 games for G): Wolf, Fantilli

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    Duchene is as physically capable of anyone in the game, top speed, very strong, quick release, good moves with the puck etc. HOWEVER his lack of a high end hockey IQ will forever stop him from being a top 5 scorer. But if he really developed that aspect, he'd literally be a once in a lifetime player, above Crosby and Malkin.

    Sadly, very few players have top shelf hockey IQ and amazing physical abilities.
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    G 4.25, A 2.75, PPP 1.5, SHP 3, Hits 0.4, Blocks 0.5, PIM 0.25, DFP 1
    W 5 OTL 1 SO 6 SV 0.25 L-1 GS 1

    F:Stamkos, C Stew, R Johansen, B Dubinsky, Max Pac, Umberger, B Ryan, D Backes, T Ruutu, Lucic, Ott, MSL, Heatley, C Kunitz, J Benn, L Adam

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    G: J Quick, A Niemi, C Anderson, Rinne


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