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    Default Most Value? Parise, Giroux, Backstrom, Kovalchuk

    How would you rank these guys? I think the GM I'm dealing with is over valuing his players but it's hard to tell this season. With Parise's new team, G's slump, and well the Washington mess and Kovalchuk.
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    Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
    Points only.(No forward positional Requirements)
    Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
    Keepers - Giroux, Tavares, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Schwartz, Malkin, Wheeler, Ryan-- S. Weber, Green -- Rask, Schneider

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    for me it would be

    Kovy
    Giroux
    Parise
    Backstrom

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    For me it would be
    Kovy
    Parise
    Giroux
    Backstrom

    Kovy and Parise are goal scorers and high volume shooters- high volume of shots equals a higher potential to score goals and your league favors goal scorers, 20 g + 20 a = 60pts, 10g + 40 a= 60pts correct?

    Giroux and Backstrom are facilitators and dont shoot as much. Just my $.02
    Season 7-16 team Yahoo! H2H dynasty league-Keep all players end of season minus IR. No farm team/prospect list. 2 rd 'draft' at start of season. Limit of 3 moves per week. Must keep 1 rookie eligible on roster
    CATs: G,A,+/-,PIM,PPP,SOG,W,SV%,GAA,SO

    C: Joe Thornton, Tyler Johnson
    LW: Evander Kane, Zach Parise
    RW: Patrick Kane(C), Marian Hossa
    D: P.K. Subban, Alex Goligoski , Michael Stone, Nick Leddy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJFP View Post
    How would you rank these guys? I think the GM I'm dealing with is over valuing his players but it's hard to tell this season. With Parise's new team, G's slump, and well the Washington mess and Kovalchuk.
    i assume you are asking because you are attempting to pry one or more of these players out of him

    hate to tell you but 'buy low' only works if the gm is willing to move off of the players for less than their 'value'

    you cannot expect to convince someone else how he should value his players

    i am guessing you want him to value them how you want and he wants to value them based on their best

    that is his right

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    i assume you are asking because you are attempting to pry one or more of these players out of him

    hate to tell you but 'buy low' only works if the gm is willing to move off of the players for less than their 'value'

    you cannot expect to convince someone else how he should value his players

    i am guessing you want him to value them how you want and he wants to value them based on their best

    that is his right
    Just wanting opinions, your over analyzing it. He actually offered me a trade
    ***2014 Points only League Champion***
    Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
    Points only.(No forward positional Requirements)
    Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
    Keepers - Giroux, Tavares, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Schwartz, Malkin, Wheeler, Ryan-- S. Weber, Green -- Rask, Schneider

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJFP View Post
    Just wanting opinions, your over analyzing it. He actually offered me a trade
    i gave you an opinion

    if there is a trade on the table why not put the trade up and see what people think of the offer

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    I asked for your opinion of the players value, you gave me a opinion on the Gm's "rights" lol you having a bad day or something? Hug?

    Anyway he sent me.

    His Kovalchuk+Michalek

    for my Giroux + Galchenyuk
    ***2014 Points only League Champion***
    Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
    Points only.(No forward positional Requirements)
    Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
    Keepers - Giroux, Tavares, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Schwartz, Malkin, Wheeler, Ryan-- S. Weber, Green -- Rask, Schneider

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJFP View Post
    I asked for your opinion of the players value, you gave me a opinion on the Gm's "rights" lol you having a bad day or something? Hug?

    Anyway he sent me.

    His Kovalchuk+Michalek

    for my Giroux + Galchenyuk
    i am having a fine day

    you come in asking for opinions and i gave one and you decided to lash out at my post as somehow not appropriate

    thats fine if you feel that way but its one hell of a way to convince people to help you

    as for the trade looks like he is trying to buy low on giroux that being said kovalchuk is not an awful offer for giroux at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    i am having a fine day

    you come in asking for opinions and i gave one and you decided to lash out at my post as somehow not appropriate

    thats fine if you feel that way but its one hell of a way to convince people to help you

    as for the trade looks like he is trying to buy low on giroux that being said kovalchuk is not an awful offer for giroux at all
    wow...... Thanks. Sorry for being the bad guy everyone!
    ***2014 Points only League Champion***
    Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
    Points only.(No forward positional Requirements)
    Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
    Keepers - Giroux, Tavares, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Schwartz, Malkin, Wheeler, Ryan-- S. Weber, Green -- Rask, Schneider

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    In that format I'd take Kovy, Giroux, Parise, Backstrom.

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    I ask because the fantasy rankings have them

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    Backstrom
    Parise
    Kovalchuk
    ***2014 Points only League Champion***
    Our league is a 10 team, 12 player keeper. Weekly H2H
    Points only.(No forward positional Requirements)
    Weight - G= 2 A= 1 Hatty =3 W = 2 So=3 OTL=1
    Keepers - Giroux, Tavares, Backstrom(C), Tarasenko, Schwartz, Malkin, Wheeler, Ryan-- S. Weber, Green -- Rask, Schneider

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beegluv View Post
    For me it would be
    Kovy
    Parise
    Giroux
    Backstrom

    Kovy and Parise are goal scorers and high volume shooters- high volume of shots equals a higher potential to score goals and your league favors goal scorers, 20 g + 20 a = 60pts, 10g + 40 a= 60pts correct?

    Giroux and Backstrom are facilitators and dont shoot as much. Just my $.02
    Agree whit this ranking for a league who give 2pts for a goal.
    10teams H2H keep 14 dress 3C,3LW,3RW,6D,2G,2uti+4bench
    G,A,PIM,PPP,GWG,SOG,HIT,BK,W,L,GAA,SV%,SHO
    C:Kopitar,Bergeron,GETZ,Datsyuk,Brassard
    RW:P.Kane,Tarasenko,Wheeler,Perry
    LW:Landeskog,Paciorety,Palat,Perron
    D:OEL,Burns,Josi,Trouba,Faulk,Niskanen,Martinez
    G:Holtby,Mrazek,Varly

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