Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: E. Johnson or B. Smith ?

  1. #1
    Pete's Avatar
    Pete is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    4,359
    Location
    Longueuil
    Rep Power
    24

    Dobber Sports Genius

    Default E. Johnson or B. Smith ?

    Keeper, pts only !

    Thanks !

  2. #2
    Shake's Avatar
    Shake is offline
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    10,652
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Monster

    Default

    Go with Smith. Better team, better producers around him.

  3. #3
    Essej's Avatar
    Essej is offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    1,887
    Location
    Canada
    Rep Power
    21

    Dobber Sports Stud

    Default

    I like Johnson better personally.

  4. #4
    Carcillo's Avatar
    Carcillo is offline
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    7,987
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Guru

    Default

    EJ. The points will come.
    UHL Pittsburgh Penguins

    24 Team Fantrax Salary Cap H2H Dynasty League
    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
    , Hits, Blks, FOW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
    23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
    27 Man Minor Team

    C-
    Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
    LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
    RW-
    Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
    D-
    JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
    G- Lehtonen, Rämö

    F: Lehterä, Wennberg,
    McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
    D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
    G: Berra, Talbot, Brossoit, Ullmark, Lieuwen, Rynnäs

    *UHL Champion 2014*

  5. #5
    Bubba55's Avatar
    Bubba55 is offline
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    5,247
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Superstar

    Default

    Tough one. Both are similar players, poolies are looking for points, PIM, hits etc. and both these guy's figure to deliver all of that. Hasn't happened....yet. In a points only your analysis certainly gets easier but it's still a tough call. For me, the bottom line is opportunity. EJ has no one in his way. If he doesn't start to produce, then that could change with all the young studs who are almost ready to put NHL careers in full swing. But right now, the only one in EJ's way is EJ. Smith is not a first pairing guy yet and will not get 1st PP minutes. He has a tougher road ahead in a well managed Red Wing system. And despite the tough start, one cannot ignore the fact that EJ came into the NHL as a first overall pick. What that means I'm actually not sure but EJ owners continue to hope that he begins to live up to those expectations. So, I'm not ready to give up yet, I go with EJ.
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

  6. #6
    dejeanneret's Avatar
    dejeanneret is offline
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Posts
    2,948
    Location
    Big Apple
    Rep Power
    49

    Dobber Sports Veteran

    Default

    Points only -- I'd still go with Johnson despite the fact that he generally hasn't lived up to expectations thus far. If it were multicat, I think it'd be a closer call.
    14 Team H2H Dynasty League (14 keepers, no farm)
    Weekly Starts (3C, 5W, 5D, 1Util, 2G)
    G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W+OTL, SV%


    C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar//Pinto/Wright
    W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson(IR)/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand/Drouin
    D: Dobson/Trouba(IR)/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Martinez/Edvinsson/York/Gudas(IR)/Tanev
    G: Saros/Demko(IR)/Askarov/DeSmith

  7. #7
    Location
    Saskatoon, SK [Canda]
    Rep Power
    33

    Dobber Sports Expert

    Default

    As far as immediate opportunity I agree with everyone that EJ is further along in his development, has more NHL seasoning, and a better situation in COL to succeed.

    I will say this though, EJ sits 8th on the team in PP ice time [despite S. Elliot being sent down]. T. Barrie is eating up PP time as their go-to D on the 1st unit. When a recent 3rd round selection usurps a 1st overall draft pick on a weak team struggling to put up offensive numbers [and the 1st overall pick has already been traded from one team] that sends up all sorts of warning flags for me.

    Do I think EJ will outpoint Smith this year...yes.
    Do I think EJ will outoint Smith over the next 3...not so sure.

    I'm starting to wonder if EJ is being groomed to be more of a shut-down, but versatile D...think Giordano or Hamhuis.
    10 Team [keep 10 + 4 prospects]
    Scoring F=1[g/a]; D=2[g], 1[a]; G=2[w], -1[L], 1[OT], 2[SO] Top 12 F, 6 D, 2 G count

    Forwards
    Crosby, Ovechkin, Backstrom, Wheeler, Byfuglien, Hornqvist, Simmonds, Ladd, Zuccarello, Ribeiro, Desharnais, Semin, MacArthur, Moulson, Purcell, Soderberg, Dupuis
    Defense
    Keith, Goligoski, Carlson, Krug, Trouba, Streit, Pouliot, Ceci, Nurse, Martinez
    Goalie
    Fleury/Price/Rask

  8. #8
    27Blue's Avatar
    27Blue is offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    3,785
    Rep Power
    0

    Banned

    Default

    the window in which EJ outpoints Smith is limited to one or two years at most...

  9. #9
    Pete's Avatar
    Pete is offline
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    4,359
    Location
    Longueuil
    Rep Power
    24

    Dobber Sports Genius

    Default

    Thanks all for all those informations !

  10. #10
    Location
    Philly
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Legend

    Default

    I am usually very patient with big defensemen who arrive at the dance with lofty expectations. Johnson still has time to put it together but he needs to start trending up fantasywise immediately - at least show some flashes. Right now I would put their potential at even but in another 10 months I fear it will be a runaway for Smith. If EJ doesn't begin producing decent numbers by next Christmas, we are most likely stuck with Brayden Coburn production offensively.
    8-GM / WK-H2H
    Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
    D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
    Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10


    Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
    Captain: Matthews
    (F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
    (D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun,
    Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
    (G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •