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    Doan, Kiprusoff, Hagelin and Seabrook
    for my
    Jagr, Visnovsky, Winnik

    for the league in my sig. goal heavy no pims.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
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    looks good to me

    nailing a starting goalie in a 14 team league is always tough even a struggling one and you dont seem to be overpaying at all here imo
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    I really like this deal for you. No real downside.
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    Tough one, but I say yes.

    Cashing in on Winniks insane points (usustainable IMO) and a troublesome Vis picking up a starting goalie is worth it. Tough to loose Jagr but is he really going to be back next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddp View Post
    Sorry rep will be given ALWAYS seems to work.

    Doan, Kiprusoff, Hagelin and Seabrook
    for my
    Jagr, Visnovsky, Winnik

    for the league in my sig. goal heavy no pims.
    I'd do it. Selling Winnik high is a bonus. I cant see him keeping up anywhere near this pace. Hagelin "should" get some top 6 time with Cally hurt for a couple weeks. Getting Kipper wont hurt you either. None of them will be keepers for you going forward anyways.

    Looks like a decent deal for you!
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    Wow. I'm of the opinion this deal is a NO. Jagr with Benn this year will put up likely 20 more pts than Doan. Kiprusoff is probably equal to my 2nd goaler Pavelec. Hagelin and Seabrook vs Winnik and lubo seems like a wash at best...but Lubo on improved iles may out produce seabrook by a lot. I'm stumped.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddp View Post
    Sorry rep will be given ALWAYS seems to work.

    Doan, Kiprusoff, Hagelin and Seabrook
    for my
    Jagr, Visnovsky, Winnik

    for the league in my sig. goal heavy no pims.
    I really like this trade for you ... You didn't lose much as one guy is obviously declining due to age, one guy who may not play this year, and another player off to a red hot start compared to his career numbers. You gained 2 decent winners in Doan and Hagelin who I both think will out point Jagr, a superior D in Seabrook who is better than Visnovsky when he is in the NHL and true #1 goalie who is not in a platoon this year. Looks like a sure fire win for you in this trade.

    Edit: Hagelin will not out point Jagr but I do like his upside due to his speed
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddp View Post
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    Doan, Kiprusoff, Hagelin and Seabrook
    for my
    Jagr, Visnovsky, Winnik

    for the league in my sig. goal heavy no pims.
    TAKE IT!!

    I like Jagr more than any forward he has and Vis the best defenceman. However, Doan is a decent player. Hagelin could sneak into the top 6 at some point in time. You have enough offensive fire power to have take these guys in as nice roll/depth players. Seabrook is no slouch, so that eases losing Vus. The bonus is getting Kip to solidify your goal.

    You very well may be getting rid of headaches with Jagr's age - injury and Vis yet to report - suspension and Winnik over-achieving.
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    MAN! Kiprusoff might actually be the biggest headache of all!! I can only dress 2 goalies...don't think I'd start kipper ahead of pavelec unless he had more games. Coyotes are crap, I owned doan last year... Good offer, but I just don't think I can give up possibly the 2 best players in the deal. I'm not talking about winnik...lubo on the iles could be very solid pt producer. CRAP. I'm torn.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
    C:CROSBY,STAMKOS,TAVARES
    RW:MALKIN,YAKUPOV
    YANDLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddp View Post
    Wow. I'm of the opinion this deal is a NO. Jagr with Benn this year will put up likely 20 more pts than Doan. Kiprusoff is probably equal to my 2nd goaler Pavelec. Hagelin and Seabrook vs Winnik and lubo seems like a wash at best...but Lubo on improved iles may out produce seabrook by a lot. I'm stumped.
    I hear you. You're looking at the plus side of keeping your guys. Look at their negatives to. As I stated in my initial reply, Jagr gets hurt quite a bit in his old age. Vis has yet to play, and this is a short season. If this is a Dynasty, then, I get your point and would hold onto these guys. If not, I'd be okay with the deal. As far as your goalies go, if one goes down you're in trouble.
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    Marleau,Nash,Nyquist,Selanne

    D: Beaulieu,Boyle,D.Hamilton,Jones,MacDonald,D.Morris
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    Quote Originally Posted by One87 View Post
    I hear you. You're looking at the plus side of keeping your guys. Look at their negatives to. As I stated in my initial reply, Jagr gets hurt quite a bit in his old age. Vis has yet to play, and this is a short season. If this is a Dynasty, then, I get your point and would hold onto these guys. If not, I'd be okay with the deal. As far as your goalies go, if one goes down you're in trouble.
    I'm well aware of the issues with Jagr and Lubo and the fact winnik likely won't do much at all for rest of year. I'd likely drop or trade him.
    BUT, I can't help but think GOALIES are SOOOO overrated, especially on this site. Kipper on calgary would be a headache...they are terrible. Doan will be a minus player. Hagelin...shrug, he's almost droppable. Seabrook...I like him cause he's on the hawks but besdies plus minus he doesnt come close to visnovksy. Jagr with Benn and Erickson...he's also in great shape.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
    C:CROSBY,STAMKOS,TAVARES
    RW:MALKIN,YAKUPOV
    YANDLE
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    My offer to him in the first place was Steen, (he asked for him before) Carlson and WInnik for his Kipper, Schenn, Seabrook. He left it up a while....just checked now and he rejected.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
    C:CROSBY,STAMKOS,TAVARES
    RW:MALKIN,YAKUPOV
    YANDLE
    Anderson
    Baseball
    Votto,Cano,hanley,longoria
    McCutchen,Stanton,Bautista.
    Verlander,Cain,Felix

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    Seems like you already made up your mind. This deal boils down to if you think Kipper will be your #2 goalie or not. And since you said you like Pavelec over Kipper then I dont see how you say yes to this deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekReese View Post
    Seems like you already made up your mind. This deal boils down to if you think Kipper will be your #2 goalie or not. And since you said you like Pavelec over Kipper then I dont see how you say yes to this deal.
    You make a good point. I am slowly convincing myself that if I trade Jagr, I need a keeper in return. I think he'll produce this year but I could be wrong.
    I've sent him an offer of kipper and Seabrook for Winnik and Lubo.
    he seems to want to move kipper.
    Last edited by ddp; January 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
    C:CROSBY,STAMKOS,TAVARES
    RW:MALKIN,YAKUPOV
    YANDLE
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    McCutchen,Stanton,Bautista.
    Verlander,Cain,Felix

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    Yeah, kipper and goalies do generally finish with higher fantasy pts...kipper was top 15 and pavelec was 40th. Jagr for Doan and Hagelin is reasonable but I'm just excited to see Jagr and that line together. not at all excited to own Doan again. Hagelin, cally is out 14 days, he'll be back to useless soon enough. Suppose you could say the same about winnik but I like winnik...he's quick. who knows, maybe he pots 15 this year, that will be more than Hagelin.
    Contract Fantrax 14 teams, 8 keepers. 4 max lifers +/-
    3C, 3LW, 3RW, 1F. 5D,2G....5Reserves.
    Goal heavy. G=3.5 A=2 Add 0.5pts for D.
    Goalies:W=3,SO=4,start=2,Save=.1
    Shootout Save=.2
    C:CROSBY,STAMKOS,TAVARES
    RW:MALKIN,YAKUPOV
    YANDLE
    Anderson
    Baseball
    Votto,Cano,hanley,longoria
    McCutchen,Stanton,Bautista.
    Verlander,Cain,Felix

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