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    Default Blockbuster (perry/ovie) NEED HELP QUICK

    My Ovechkin, Carter and Vokoun
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    His Perry, Zetterberg and Bernier

    (all i wanted was Bernier for Vokoun before he's moved). He countered with Tarasenko, bernier
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    My Ryan and Bachman.

    Trying to cash in in Tarasenko value...but with Kessel and yakupov already at RW...I have no room.

    Thoughts on that first huge move? Consider my team below...
    After keepers would be
    C- Tavares, zetterberg or granlund
    L- Hall, Ryan
    R- Perry, Kessel
    Util - 2 of...yakupov, Bernier or Backstrom(G) or Granlund, Ribeiro, Clowe
    D- Doughty, Edler, Phaneuf, OEL
    G - Bryz and Halak.

    Help me out guys!
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    damn you dont like to make things easy do you

    i would feel a lot more comfortable knowing bernier was already a number 1 goalie

    i actually think the trade is reasonably even and would probably do it
    6 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 10 - 6 F, 3 D, 1 G


    20 Team Fantrax HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    4 C, 8 W, 6 D, 1 G, 6 Bench
    Dynasty, Farm 20 Prospects under 135 GP


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    G, A, -/+, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 U, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 14 - 2 G Max

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    With the kings playing so bad they make keep Bernier. That's just my thinking.
    12 team, H2H points, limited keepers
    allowed 6 keeper players(no keepers from rounds 1-4)
    keepers are k

    16 man roster plus 1 IR
    start 6 forwards,4 d, 2 goalies

    pts: G=3, A=2, DA=3, DG=5, +/-=1 GWG=1,OTG=2,OTA=1, SHOG=1, PPG=2, PPA=1, SHG=3, SHA=1, HT=3
    BLKS=.25, HITS=.25, MAJ=2

    Goalie pts: WINS=5, SAVES=.20, GA=-1, SO=3
    SHOG SAVE=.50, SHOL=2

    forwards: GIROUX(k),TARASENKO,HALL(k),
    JOHANSEN, R.SMITH, H.SEDIN
    d: OEL(k), EDLER, BYFUGLIEN(k) JOSI
    goalies :KHUDOBIN,MASON(k), RINNE(k)
    (k)=keeper
    bench: DROUIN, KREIDER
    NICHUSHKIN, SIMMONDS
    IR:SCHEIFELE

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmkidd View Post
    With the kings playing so bad they make keep Bernier. That's just my thinking.
    true but this is more a long game move i would think

    la cant keep him forever
    6 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 10 - 6 F, 3 D, 1 G


    20 Team Fantrax HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    4 C, 8 W, 6 D, 1 G, 6 Bench
    Dynasty, Farm 20 Prospects under 135 GP


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    G, A, -/+, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 U, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 14 - 2 G Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    true but this is more a long game move i would think

    la cant keep him forever
    Exactly...risky sure. But I have Bryz, Halak, Backstrom and Theodore already. I can only keep 2...(3 if I burn a utility spot) goalies. If he's not moved or moved.to a.bad spot...Big deal. He's not kept.

    But this alsonget me out grounder ovie's cloud and the??? Of today's Carter and the anemic LA offense. Lose on the LW...but replace with zetts...keeping Hall and Ryan...then bolster rw with perry to Kessel and Yakupov.
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmkidd View Post
    With the kings playing so bad they make keep Bernier. That's just my thinking.
    Focus less on the tenders. I know it's a big boom / bust situation.

    What's your thoughts on Ovie vs Perry and Zetterberg vs Carter?
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    Focus less on the tenders. I know it's a big boom / bust situation.

    What's your thoughts on Ovie vs Perry and Zetterberg vs Carter?
    in theory its even

    in practice the last few seasons favor the side you are getting and if that predicts the future you come out ahead in this

    even if all the players involved repeat their top seasons you are only -6 in points and that is a pretty big if

    that minus 6 in points is goals and assists points i didnt crunch the actual numbers for your league
    6 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 10 - 6 F, 3 D, 1 G


    20 Team Fantrax HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    4 C, 8 W, 6 D, 1 G, 6 Bench
    Dynasty, Farm 20 Prospects under 135 GP


    14 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, -/+, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 U, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 14 - 2 G Max

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    As you can see in my sig I own both OV and Carter and as an owner I would gladly move them for Perry and Zetterberg. I do still think that OV can turn it around but to be honest I'm feeling less in less confident that he will. Originally I thought it was the whole coaching debacle and changing WAS to a defensive system. Now I'm left thinking it's that massive contract that's impacting his overall play...with that said it's still very early in the "Oates era" so I'm still holding out hope.

    As for Carter? Stick a fork in him. He's done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see ever surpassing 70pts again and frankly I think he's in tough to reach 60pts on a semi-regular basis.

    I do like Perry a lot but you're pretty stacked at RW. He's in a contract year so I'm expecting good numbers out of him this year and I think he has the talent to continue to flirt close to a PPG for several more seasons.

    Zetterberg will likely start to see his numbers decline but I still think he'll be a consistent 65-75pts guy for many seasons.

    I take this deal.
    10-team Auction League, $160 team salary, weekly H2H, start: 6F, 4D, 1G and 5 Bench

    Scoring structure: (F : 1pt G / 1pt A / 0.15pts SOG / 0.15pts Hits / 0.15pts BlkS), (G : 5 pts W / 3 pts SO / 0.01 pts Saves)

    Forwards : Ovechkin ($43), Kessel ($20), Benn ($7), Spezza ($13), Brown ($7), Marchand ($13), Landeskog ($3), Elias ($1), Plekanec ($1),

    Defenses : Letang ($26), Visnovsky ($1), Bieksa ($1), Faulk ($2) Ehrhoff ($2)

    Goalies : Holtby ($7), Nabokov ($2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    in theory its even

    in practice the last few seasons favor the side you are getting and if that predicts the future you come out ahead in this

    even if all the players involved repeat their top seasons you are only -6 in points and that is a pretty big if

    that minus 6 in points is goals and assists points i didnt crunch the actual numbers for your league
    The offer is on the table. We'll see what he does.

    Thanks for taking time to crunch some numbers. Rep is yours.

    Failing that...and considering my rosters below...what do you think about losing Ryan for Bernier and Tarasenko?

    I'd definitely have to move one of terasenko, yak or granlund...but Ryan??

    I'd be left with ovie and hall on the left wing and a ton on rw.

    Wierd thing I noticed...if you check out yak...he's listed as a lw and rw on many sites. If he can become lw eligible it would ease the loss of ryan.
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    Limited keeper where you wouldn't keep Bernier? I say no...not right now anyways. You're team is very solid. If Tarasenko's flame starts I'd feel more comfortable with the vet Ryan and the added bonus of him being a LW keeper shouldn't be underestimated given your team dynamic.
    10-team Auction League, $160 team salary, weekly H2H, start: 6F, 4D, 1G and 5 Bench

    Scoring structure: (F : 1pt G / 1pt A / 0.15pts SOG / 0.15pts Hits / 0.15pts BlkS), (G : 5 pts W / 3 pts SO / 0.01 pts Saves)

    Forwards : Ovechkin ($43), Kessel ($20), Benn ($7), Spezza ($13), Brown ($7), Marchand ($13), Landeskog ($3), Elias ($1), Plekanec ($1),

    Defenses : Letang ($26), Visnovsky ($1), Bieksa ($1), Faulk ($2) Ehrhoff ($2)

    Goalies : Holtby ($7), Nabokov ($2)

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    if you do the ryan trade you pretty much have to keep bernier
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    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 10 - 6 F, 3 D, 1 G


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    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    4 C, 8 W, 6 D, 1 G, 6 Bench
    Dynasty, Farm 20 Prospects under 135 GP


    14 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, -/+, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenzle1r View Post
    As you can see in my sig I own both OV and Carter and as an owner I would gladly move them for Perry and Zetterberg. I do still think that OV can turn it around but to be honest I'm feeling less in less confident that he will. Originally I thought it was the whole coaching debacle and changing WAS to a defensive system. Now I'm left thinking it's that massive contract that's impacting his overall play...with that said it's still very early in the "Oates era" so I'm still holding out hope.

    As for Carter? Stick a fork in him. He's done as far as I'm concerned. I don't see ever surpassing 70pts again and frankly I think he's in tough to reach 60pts on a semi-regular basis.

    I do like Perry a lot but you're pretty stacked at RW. He's in a contract year so I'm expecting good numbers out of him this year and I think he has the talent to continue to flirt close to a PPG for several more seasons.

    Zetterberg will likely start to see his numbers decline but I still think he'll be a consistent 65-75pts guy for many seasons.

    I take this deal.
    Awesome insight. Thanks.

    What's your thoughts of taresenko and Bernier for Ryan and Bachman?...it's been offered to me. Still waiting out the ovie deal...but if that falls through...

    I don't need another young RW...Yakupov already owns that spot. But I suppose incoulf floor taresenko or granlund now...
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    Understood. Let him ride the Tarasenko train. I really have no room for him. I want Bernier as a g for g move...or as a part of a bigger move (see subject of this post) so that I'm not forced to keep him if he doesn't land in the right spot or situation.
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    My Ovie and player to be named (my choice) and a 3rd rounder
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    Perry, Bernier and a 1st rounder

    Is now the time to move on from Ovie...let him be someone else's nightmare?

    He didn't want to lose zetterberg as he's looking to upgrade at LW.

    Help me out Dobbers nation!

    Perry decent return for Ovechkin?
    Last edited by havanablast21; January 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM.
    Team:
    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Callahan
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas, Beauchemin
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


    11 Team Keeper league with Yahoo

    Roster (14 Kept Players): C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Util, Util (Can keep a 3rd G with Util)

    (Weighted Category Points: see below).

    Skaters -
    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
    (W) 15
    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    at least wait until this afternoons game is over
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    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 3 F, 6 D, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 10 - 6 F, 3 D, 1 G


    20 Team Fantrax HTH League
    G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%
    4 C, 8 W, 6 D, 1 G, 6 Bench
    Dynasty, Farm 20 Prospects under 135 GP


    14 Team Yahoo HTH League
    G, A, -/+, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, FW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 U, 2 G, 5 Bench
    Keep 14 - 2 G Max

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