Reply With QuoteBarrie best do 15 points, thereabouts. Sorry, I'm not surprised. He's outperformed Elliott this year and last.
Ty Barrie Stays Elliott Back to Eerie
Hmmmm so what happens here do you think? Altered projections? Anyone wanna take a guesstimation for fun?
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Barrie best do 15 points, thereabouts. Sorry, I'm not surprised. He's outperformed Elliott this year and last.
How do you compare Barrie and Elliott for points only?
Are they much close? Seems like on these boards Elliott has a huge edge over Barrie
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Elliott still has huge upside, but it appears as though Barrie's game is more likely to make it in the NHL at this point. We still need to see how Barrie performs over the season (if he sticks) but I still would way rather own Elliott and his upside over Barrie.Originally Posted by Yonald
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How is it that you see Elliott's upside exceeding Barrie's?
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I'm with Slufoot... I've never understood Angus being so high on Elliott.
He never put up great numbers until he was among the oldest guys in his junior league. Barrie at least showed he was differentiated against kids of similar age. For me, they both have upsides in the 40-50 range but Barrie has a more well-rounded game.
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Fair enough. A 30-goal scoring defenseman tends to garner attention even in his senior year. I'm still a big Barrie believer (and owner) but I still think that if Elliott were to make it it would be because he's scoring a ton. Barrie, in my mind, is a sure fire NHL player but won't see the same upside that Elliott could reach. Based on ownership, I hope I'm wrong!
PS - don't think it was just angus who was high in this kid, he's been a pretty popular player across the boards, if my memory serves me right.
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Any chance Elliott see's NHL time this year?
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I think Elliott will be fine.
He needs more time in the AHL.
He had a very consistent production increase in the WHL: 40/55/65/81.
Likely the COL brass wants to see similar increase in the AHL.
I think he'll be solid, from what I've seen, but he may be a year or two away (which unfortunately, is farther than what I had predicted too).
He'll be up if COL loses any offensive d-men to injury.
If Erik Johnson goes down, I think we'll see him for sure.
Prospects are fine and all but generally they make you wait an extra year or two beyond what you would like to see. I'm going through this right now with Nyquist, Rundblad and Erixon.
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So does this change EJ's numbers one way or the other? Will he start logging Chara like ice time? I don't know, but the Av's back end looks a bit weak, I can see them having to lean on EJ big time.
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Good point.
I remember it looking similarly for Shattenkirk a while back. I had him, dropped him when he was returned to minors. Then he got called back up a couple weeks later, and...well he has been pretty good since.
Not getting burned again on this one. I feel he'll be back up sooner than later and produce when he does.
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