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    Default P.Kane/Saad FOR D.Stepan/Grigorenko/Voynov/3rdRDpick

    I rejected the trade.
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    Don't feel pressured into making this trade if you don't need it. You will lose current production from Kane and won't see the full return for couple years until Grigorenko is playing. I would only consider this if you were in a dire need to completely rebuild. I would also ask him if he could do a little better than a worthless 3rd rd pick.
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    I'd much rather have the Kane side.
    I can't promise I'll try but I'll try to try.

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    Trade rejected.
    Last edited by MR_BIGGS; January 17, 2013 at 2:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS View Post
    I am definately not going to win this year or next. I'm currently in a rebuild of sorts. I do feel I should try and get a first round pick out of it if I throw in a depth guy.

    What do others think?
    Kane is just entering his prime years. Why not build around him. He is by far the best player in the deal.
    I can't promise I'll try but I'll try to try.

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    Trade rejected.
    Last edited by MR_BIGGS; January 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM.

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    it would help to see your team and cats, if your league counts hits then Stepan gains some considerable value in the comparison (137 vs 19 for Kane this past year).. in an 18 team league, getting depth can be useful when in a rebuild. If he were to swap Voynov out for Faulk, and make the pick a 1st THIS YEAR, then I would seriously consider it. Stepan is a quality fantasy player, Faulk's value is about to skyrocket IMO and Grigorenko has elite upside and will have ample opportunity to earn a spot on the Sabres sooner rather than later. If the pick ends up being even a top 10 pick that will be a VERY good prospect in this upcoming draft.. You could gain some very valuable pieces to build around.
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    Trade rejected.
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    Trade rejected.
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    Bump...............

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    I don't think it's a good idea at all. Some nice pieces, but a ton of question marks. You would probably get better offers if you out him on the market. That being said, of I was rebuilding, Kane is a guy of want to be building around (not to mention this is the absolute WORST time to be trading Kane). I wouldn't be moving him to get younger. There are 8-10 years of great production left in Kane - at least.
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    Even with the first I would not do this deal. If Kane were 30, maybe a different story. He just really isn't 30.
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    Some good points have been made.

    I've been building around Kane through the draft and have some decent pieces. I don't see myself winning in the next 1-2 years, although I'm alway looking for ways to improve my team. So I guess the question becomes: would I be better off in two years (and onwards) with Kane and buildilng around him, or with the pieces offered in the trade.

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    I would hold Pat Kane.
    At very least, sell him when he's HIGH, but not now.

    Kane should be opening the year with Bolland-Sharp, so maybe he does better being back on the wing than he has in previous years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I would hold Pat Kane.
    At very least, sell him when he's HIGH, but not now.

    Kane should be opening the year with Bolland-Sharp, so maybe he does better being back on the wing than he has in previous years.
    this is very important if you are a couple of years away anyway there is no rush to get your players out of the door immediately

    dont trade them when they are possibly at their lowest value
     
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