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    Default NHL and NHLPA agree on an accelerated compliance buyout period

    Teams will be allowed to use their compliance buyout now up until the start of the season. However players bought out under this accelerated buyout window will still fully count against salary cap this year and teams will be on the hook for the full salary this year. There'll be a second compliance buyout period in the summer as agreed in the CBA.

    So basically this just allows Montreal to buyout Gomez and Rangers to buyout Wade Redden right now so that those two can start seeking a new contract immediately instead of just sitting at home the rest of the season.
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    I think this is better than forcing them to sit home. I'm just mixed about keeping those cap hits on the books while those same players are playing elsewhere.


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    this is good. the players can now move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I think this is better than forcing them to sit home. I'm just mixed about keeping those cap hits on the books while those same players are playing elsewhere.
    Definitely. NHL and NHLPA using common sense and quickly agreeing on something - how about that?

    It's only right that teams will be on the hook for those cap hits this year. Gotta pay for your own mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I think this is better than forcing them to sit home. I'm just mixed about keeping those cap hits on the books while those same players are playing elsewhere.
    At least it honors the bonehead moves made by those teams (sorry Habs and Rangers).
    Although subtracting the new cap hit from the old would be a nice middle ground.
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    Now the bigger question: are Gomez and Redden in the NHL this year?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    Now the bigger question: are Gomez and Redden in the NHL this year?
    Redden will definitely be in NHL this year. Not so sure about Gomez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Redden will definitely be in NHL this year. Not so sure about Gomez.
    I'm worried Redden signs and Cam Barker's himself right back out of the NHL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I'm worried Redden signs and Cam Barker's himself right back out of the NHL.
    Could happen but he'll get his chance to show he's still a capable NHL D-man. And Barker's not really a fair comparison as Redden's been a very solid D-man while Barker's always been a disaster in his own end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Could happen but he'll get his chance to show he's still a capable NHL D-man. And Barker's not really a fair comparison as Redden's been a very solid D-man while Barker's always been a disaster in his own end.
    Redden was terrible at the end of his NHL run.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    Redden was terrible at the end of his NHL run.
    Still better than Barker
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    Unless I'm reading this wrong, the team still has the hammer on the buyout decision and this new CBA wrinkle doesn't give any financial/cap incentive for them to do it. No real cash savings. No cap savings (or at least, no NEW cap savings as compared to the previous version of the new CBA).

    Why would the Habs buyout Gomez at full price now when they can do it at a cheaper cash price in July? And maybe have Gomez play against the Habs this year?

    That's a helluva generous move...
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    Wade Redden in the NHL... I think I was in grade school the last time that happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherpa View Post
    Why would the Habs buyout Gomez at full price now when they can do it at a cheaper cash price in July? And maybe have Gomez play against the Habs this year?

    That's a helluva generous move...
    its not a cheaper price in july because they would still have to pay his full salary this season

    the prices and cap hits are identical no matter if they are bought out now or later
     
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    I really don't get why an NHL team would do this. Wouldn't it be better to trade that player to another team and pay them 90% of the salary, then buy the player out in the summer? The only advantage in buying out now is to give the player the oportunity to make more cash elsewhere...

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