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Thread: Tomas Fleischmann vs Michael Cammalleri

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    Default Tomas Fleischmann vs Michael Cammalleri

    One has fallen from grace (Camm) and probably couldn't be valued lower at this point. Looks like he'll be Centering Iggy. The last time he did so from the season's start was 2008 where he put up the following numbers.

    2008-09 CGY 81GP 38G 43A 82Pts -2 44PIM

    Since then he's been mortal. Can he find the Magic again?

    Fleischmann had a career year last year playing with fellow Marginal talents, Versteeg and Wiese. (not office to these guys but they're not top line material on many other playoff worthy teams)....OR ARE THEY!? Before last season, no one would have figured these 3 would gel like they did. And now with Huberdeau as the unknown factor...

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    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas,
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


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    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
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    I like Flash alot. In the last year and a half my entire roster has changed except 2 players 1 goalie. Flash is one of them. Think he's a solid 60 pt guy going forward. Might breakout with Hub's.
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    I think cammy could have a decent year if he skates all season with Iggy and Tang.
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    I own both and, to be honest, I feel safer having Flash than Cammy. Flash has proven that, barring injury, he's a solid 60-pt guy. So I'd project 36 points for Flash. Cammy's hard to read - I'd project 28 points for now but the upper and lower range on him is vast.
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    Cammy is done IMO.

    Flash all the way!
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    Jagr, Hemsky, Fleischmann
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    I own both in a pts only keeper and to be honest I have more confidence in Flash playing at a 60+ pt pace then I do Cammalleri. Having said that in a shortened season it will be close, s I'll say 34 for Fleischmann and 30 for Cammalleri.
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    F- P.Kane, Kopitar, Giroux, Duchene, Zetterberg, Voracek, Krejci, C.Smith, Fleischmann, Erat, Cammalleri, Anisimov, Eakin, Niederreiter
    D- Edler, Ekman-Larsson, Shattenkirk, Markov, Carle
    G- Fleury
    Prospects- M.Granlund, Nyquist, Kuznetsov, Grigorenko, Baertschi, Burakowsky, Barrie, B.Smith, Brodin, Bishop

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    Cammy is done? REALLY?! But the guy is a frick'n Machine. I've seen specials on him and hey's a rediculous physical specimen. Why has his game suffered so much. He's not that old. He's not only had 1 elite year, he's have alteast 3 across LA and Calgary.

    What has caused his game to suffer so much? Or has he always been an average player in elite disguise?
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    C - Tavares, Getzlaf, Kuznetsov, J.Jokinen,
    L - Hall, Kunitz, JVR,
    R - Perry, Eberle, Gaborik, Pominville, Silfverberg(LW/RW)
    D - Karlsson, OEL, (RW/D)Burns, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Gudas,
    G - Crawford, Bobrovsky , Neuvirth, M.Jones, Raanta, Lack, Gustavsson


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    (Points: G a/o A) 6
    (+/-) 3
    (PIM) 1
    (PPP) 5
    (GWG) 5

    Goaltenders
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    (GA) -10
    (SV) 1
    (SHO) 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by havanablast21 View Post
    Cammy is done? REALLY?! But the guy is a frick'n Machine. I've seen specials on him and hey's a rediculous physical specimen. Why has his game suffered so much. He's not that old. He's not only had 1 elite year, he's have alteast 3 across LA and Calgary.

    What has caused his game to suffer so much? Or has he always been an average player in elite disguise?
    Take what I am saying with a grain of salt - Just not a fan of his. I fully admit that I may be way undervaluing him, but aside from his two monster years, he has put up pedistrian numbers. He always seems to get hurt and I just see his name value being more valuable than his actual value.

    Just one of those guys I don't like - we all have one or two
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    Kessel, St. Louis, Kunitz
    Ladd, MaCarthur, J.Jokinen
    Jagr, Hemsky, Fleischmann
    Lee, Bennett, Sheahan

    Hedman, Keith, Josi
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    Quote Originally Posted by loco man View Post
    Take what I am saying with a grain of salt - Just not a fan of his. I fully admit that I may be way undervaluing him, but aside from his two monster years, he has put up pedistrian numbers. He always seems to get hurt and I just see his name value being more valuable than his actual value.

    Just one of those guys I don't like - we all have one or two
    Point taken.

    Considering I already have Ovie, Hall, Ryan and Clowe (RW/LW eligible) on the LW...Adding a C/LW like Cammy over the ? of Flash...may be a) worth it or b) inconsequential as I also have Tavares, Carter, Granlund and Ribeiro likely infront of him.

    IT's a battle of potential trade chips down the road with either...unless one take off...probably neither are keepers.

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    Fleischmann to me is the safer pick, but I like Cammalleri. I think Cammalleri is in for a nice bounce back season, he'd be my choice.

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    Cammy will score more goals than the Flash. Points will be similar. Cammy is the better option in goal heavy leagues.
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