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    I give Parise and get back either Getz or Duchene. Is this an offer worth taking? Parise is a keeper for me and Getz and Duchene are keepers for the other guy.
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    I'd rather have Parise for three reasons. One, you aren't counting on him to bounce back. Both Getz and Duchene you would be hoping for bounce back campaigns. 2, Parise plays all situations (PP, SH) and is a better multi-cat guy (especially compared to Duchene). Lastly, quality wingers are harder to come by than quality centers, making Parise more valuable. No deal IMO

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    I wouldn't do it. I'd keep Parise.
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    Everything said above is true. Parise all the way for me.

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    Parise over Getzlaf because of position. If position didn't matter and PIMs were to be counted I would go with Getzlaf. Would not even consider trading Parise for Duchene.

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    how is he not counting on parise to bounce back

    i would think about getz as the cap hit is better and even though he will be a ufa theres not going to be parise money out there for him

    getz is a little closer to his best seasons than parise and isnt changing teams this coming season
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    how is he not counting on parise to bounce back
    I think what he means by that, is that Getzlaf and Duchene both had bad seasons last year and will need to bounce back, where as Parise had a pretty strong season, that isn't in need of him to bounce back, although he could certainly do better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essej View Post
    I think what he means by that, is that Getzlaf and Duchene both had bad seasons last year and will need to bounce back, where as Parise had a pretty strong season, that isn't in need of him to bounce back, although he could certainly do better.
    pretty strong season by what definition

    he had 69 points in 82 i would hardly consider that a strong season
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    pretty strong season by what definition

    he had 69 points in 82 i would hardly consider that a strong season
    69 points puts him in the Top 25 for points on the season. Sure Parise has put up better seasons in the past, but 69 points is nothing to sneeze at. On top of that it isn't anything like the drop that both Getzlaf and Duchene went through. There is reason to be happy or at the very least content with 69 points, unlike the totals that Getzlaf and Duchene put up last season, thus they unlike Parise are in need of bounce back seasons. Parise wouldn't be bouncing back so much as he would just be doing better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essej View Post
    69 points puts him in the Top 25 for points on the season. Sure Parise has put up better seasons in the past, but 69 points is nothing to sneeze at. On top of that it isn't anything like the drop that both Getzlaf and Duchene went through. There is reason to be happy or at the very least content with 69 points, unlike the totals that Getzlaf and Duchene put up last season, thus they unlike Parise are in need of bounce back seasons. Parise wouldn't be bouncing back so much as he would just be doing better.
    parise is 2 seasons from his best seasons not one season

    yeah getz had a tough season his whole team did however he is 1 season removed from 4 consecutive ppg or better seasons

    parise only has 2 of those and he is further removed from them and on a new team

    not to mention this is a cap league and getzlafs contract is much better

    thats not to say getz is a slam dunk over parise i just suggested that was a trade worth considering given the cap hit and the fact that getz is much closer to his best seasons (of which there were more) than parise is

    plus unless i am mistaken even with the off year getz put up over 25 more points then parise under this scoring system last season the op would have to tell me if i got the math right or not he would know better but i have getz getting 324.2 and parise getting 297.5 given the stats they put up last season
     
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    I'd roll with Parise. He the safest bet of the bunch with only Getz having marginally more upside (short term, but with more risk).
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    if my math is right i change my vote from maybe getz to definitely getz
     
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    He is right, Getz did score about ten points more than Parise but he extra points can be contributed to his FOW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_Smokie View Post
    He is right, Getz did score about ten points more than Parise but he extra points can be contributed to his FOW.
    correct

    but it seems like many are making a decision purely on a comparison of last years point totals
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucifer316 View Post
    parise is 2 seasons from his best seasons not one season

    yeah getz had a tough season his whole team did however he is 1 season removed from 4 consecutive ppg or better seasons

    parise only has 2 of those and he is further removed from them and on a new team

    not to mention this is a cap league and getzlafs contract is much better

    thats not to say getz is a slam dunk over parise i just suggested that was a trade worth considering given the cap hit and the fact that getz is much closer to his best seasons (of which there were more) than parise is

    plus unless i am mistaken even with the off year getz put up over 25 more points then parise under this scoring system last season the op would have to tell me if i got the math right or not he would know better but i have getz getting 324.2 and parise getting 297.5 given the stats they put up last season
    The only thing I'm arguing with you is about the term bounce back. Parise had his bounce back last season with 69 points after a season where he played in only 13 games. Parise is looking to build on last years point totals, where as Getzlaf and Duchene fell way below expectations and will be looking to bounce back. Hence why it was mentioned earlier in the thread that Parise is a little bit safer because unlike Getzlaf and Duchene, he doesn't have to bounce back in the same way the two of them need to.

    In this thread, I'm one of the guys who is in high regard of Getzlaf, and I only slightly favour Parise because of the position he plays, LW vs. C. I'm of the thinking that there is no wrong decision in thinking who's better, because the case could be made for either one of them, and this is something that only the season will be able to tell, as to who the better option is.

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