Parise for me.
He's a deft sniper who has never played with anybody as skilled a passer as Mikko Koivu.
You pair an elite playmaker with an elite sniper and point-totals go boom.
Unless somebody is going to tell me that Zajac-Langenbrunner were better players than Koivu-Heatley.
Also - as long-term thinking goes... Jamie Benn is a center only.
This is 2C keepers for you, add Getzlaf and you have 3.
I'd rather have 2C/2LW than 3C/1LW.
Getzlaf will be a UFA and is due big bucks. You have to compare relative value of Parise at LW versus Getzlaf at C then, as all C will get bump in value with FOW. In Fantrax Getzlaf is ranked 12th, Weiss 16th, Plekanec 21st overall out of ALL SKATERS due to FOW.
Last edited by cdubb; January 9, 2013 at 10:02 AM.
It's close enough to have a positional preference. Like you said, everyone on Anaheim did crap last year. Is their team much different this year - no? Is Parise's situation much better- maybe?
Getzlaf's cap might be better this year, but not for long.
P.s . I hope Getzlaf gets 90 assists cuz I own Perry in multiple leagues.
Last edited by cdubb; January 9, 2013 at 10:17 AM.
parise missed all but 13 games in a season while getz missed 15 and 16 games in two seperate seasons how does a 15 missed game injury become the equivalent of a 69 missed game injury
also one of his injuries was from being hit in the face with a puck thats a freak injury it hardly qualifies as consideration for injury prone
i would be shocked if getzlaf managed to get more than parise given the cap will be going down next seasonGetzlaf will be a UFA and is due big bucks. You have to compare relative value of Parise at LW versus Getzlaf at C then, as all C will get bump in value with FOW. In Fantrax Getzlaf is ranked 12th, Weiss 16th, Plekanec 21st overall out of ALL SKATERS due to FOW.
as for the lw vs c thing yes it is certainly at play however so is total points under this scoring system as well as contracts
position isnt end all be all it is only part of what needs to be looked
too many are treating this like a straight points league with no cap
Geztlaf sprained his ankle in 2010 Olympics, And re-injured it 3 times in 5 weeks per Fantrax.
As an orthopedic surgeon I would argue that is an isolated injury for both of them.
I don't belong to any salary cap leagues, so don't know how UFA status affects it but agree contracts matter.
and i dont know what you are talking about drafting for fow instead of goals
this is not a cat league it is a points league you draft for points it doesnt make one bit of difference where they come from
the team that wins is the one with the most points not the one with the most goals
people really need to get out of this mindset that points leagues should be drafted like cat leagues
i have no where claimed outrageDifference of opinion, but stop claiming outrage when everyone else disagrees. It's close enough to have a positional preference. Like you said, everyone on Anaheim did crap last year. Is their team much different this year - no? Is Parise's situation much better- maybe?
and this isnt about a difference of opinion its about people making crap up and then trying to pass it off as facts
its about people making excuses for one while shitting on another
its about people holding both players to completely different standards
anaheim still has talented players they happened to have a terrible year i dont get this idea that all of those players are now terrible and thats what we will see forever you cant honestly believe that can you
as for parises situation being better sorry not by a long shot last year his linemates were the 5th and 10th scorers in the league
unless you played with malkin and neal you couldnt have had it sweeter than parise did last season
you actually have no idea if thats the case or notGetzlaf's cap might be better this year, but not for long.
given that the salary cap is going down next year and not up the likelyhood that he gets a parise deal is kinda slim especially since perry is also up and there will be plenty of other players to replace including potentially selanne and koivu
the big clubs will have enough of a problem getting their own players under contract and managing buyouts that he cant count on an offer to leverage a better deal and somehow i just dont see him going to say the islanders
i would be shocked if getz gets $7.5 i just dont see it happening especially since no one knows what damage was done to the game and the cap could in theory stall for a year or two
if you remove parises knee you remove getzs ankle
the puck to the face was freak so we are left with getz missing 6 games hardly anything to get all up in arms about
again i posted game totals and getz has played more over the same time so i am not sure why you keep trying to insist that getz has missed tons of time
i am not in any cap leagues either however i understand that if you have one guy get 361.2 points with a $6.13 and another get 356.1 with a $7.54 cap hit that means something it means enough to me that the whole w vs c thing isnt an end all be all anymoreI don't belong to any salary cap leagues, so don't know how UFA status affects it but agree contracts matter.
Getzlaf 149 sog, 178 hts, 49 blocks, 79 pims = 75.2 + 7.9 = 83 pts
Parise 347 sog, 108 hts, 34 blocks, 32 pims = 97.8 + 3.2 = 101 pts
Then take account G worth more than A (4:3), GWG etc. than if Getzlaf MAY win but only due to FOW. I can't bother to calculate it on an iPad.
you have some good points, but Parise played mostly with Henrique as C, not Elias.
Last edited by cdubb; January 9, 2013 at 11:00 AM.
looks like 11-12 is getz 09-10 and 08-09 are parise 07-08 and 06-07 are getz
when parise gets over 35 goals he beats getzlaf under this scoring system however if he cant get to 35 it doesnt look like he beats him
you are right henrique at even strenght and elias on the ppyou have some good points, but Parise played mostly with Henrique as C, not Elias.
so only one of his linemates was in the top 10 in scoring
Looks like this thread has been hijacked with some hard to follow babble.
I don't think you can go wrong either way, both are solid players. But I side with Pengwin on the position eligibility. Spread around your talent a little bit, so give me Parise.
teams with more points win doesnt matter where the points come from
also its not just about getting cheap centers they actually have to put up the points as well
a lot of cap management is getting the most points per dollar that you can get while accounting for position