Ryan Murphy
What do you guys think of Murphy going forward? I wasn't too impressed with his play at the WJ's.
He's a lot like Ryan Ellis, struggles defensively but is a stud offensively from the back end. Ellis seemed to have a much better WJ's though when he played.
Would you look to move him for another prospect...say Kuznetsov?
12 Team HTH Keeper
(F's G=1 A=1, D G=1 A=1, All Skaters PPG=.5, SHG=.5 Goalies W=2 SO=3)
Dress 8 F, 4 D, 2 G weekly
F's-Marner, Rantanen, Crosby, Panarin, Guentzel, Caufield, Kaprizov, Lundell, Tomasino, Holtz, Pavelski, Zuccarello, Hagel, Dach
D-Makar, Josi, Doughty Andersson, AP, Hutson
G-Hellebuyck, Fleury, Comrie, Kochetkov, Wolf, Primeau, Sogaard
I wouldn't. I can't stand the guy. I agree with the Ryan Ellis comparison (though I like Ellis better) and I just can't decide if he makes it as an NHL'er. Great offensive skills but man can he look atrocious in his own end. I think he's a long term project, albeit with great reward if he makes it.
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
IMO he just had a bad WJC. He will still be a good fantasy defenesemen eventually. Murphy was the most NHL ready of his draft class D IMO he was never the guy with the highest upside. Columbus drafted him because he is ready now and doesn't need as much development and their development historically stinks.
If I could get Kuznetzov for Murphy I would do it in a heart beat
Most ready D in his draft class? Adam Larsson?
Carolina drafted him also
12 Team HTH Keeper
(F's G=1 A=1, D G=1 A=1, All Skaters PPG=.5, SHG=.5 Goalies W=2 SO=3)
Dress 8 F, 4 D, 2 G weekly
F's-Marner, Rantanen, Crosby, Panarin, Guentzel, Caufield, Kaprizov, Lundell, Tomasino, Holtz, Pavelski, Zuccarello, Hagel, Dach
D-Makar, Josi, Doughty Andersson, AP, Hutson
G-Hellebuyck, Fleury, Comrie, Kochetkov, Wolf, Primeau, Sogaard
Me thinks you're thinking Ryan Murray. Big difference.Originally Posted by fuji9991
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
easy comparable: Marc-Andre Bergeron
if he makes the show, it will be on a non-contending team as an offensive spe******t.
I like the way this guy is thinking, Kuznetsov for Murphy is a sweet deal!
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Wow you have all it wrong IMO. Murphy had the highest upside of his draft class, but he was probably the less NHL-ready...
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If you can get legit value for the guy I'd cut bait. I do not see a player anywhere near ready for NHL action. There's little room in the NHL for small offensive defencemen who are highly suspect defensively. His OHL production is a bit of an enigma (possibly injury related) but I hate to see a players point-per-game production drop in three consecutive junior campaigns (although he did light it up in the playoffs last year).
Give him 2-3 years in the AHL and we'll know if he can really hack it with the big boys...until then I'm calling him a long term project with decent to good upside.
Look at it this way, Ryan Ellis was drafted two years before Murphy, is a better player and has still only played 32 NHL games.
Murphy's defense is fairly solid at the OHL level, but obviously he still has a lot of work to do as the opposing talent gets better. He's a good player to hold if you can afford to, as he definitely has the talent to be a big scorer on defense but if you need the spot or you can get a good return on him by all means shuttle him off. Enticing upside but pretty longshot of actually hitting it or even making the NHL in a substantial way.
If you can swap him for Kuznetsov, I'd probably do it.
20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary
Start 12 F, 6 D, 1G weekly
F: Kucherov, Marchand, Barkov, Gaudreau, Laine, Aho, Dubois, Dadonov, Huberdeau, Trocheck, Bertuzzi, Beauvillier, Khaira, Grigorenko
D: Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Edler, Pulock, Borowiecki, Weegar, Mike Reilly
G: Andersen, Hart
Farm: Boldy, Beckman, Wise, Mascherin, Kovalenko, Manukyan, Walker, Morozov, Shafigullin, Palmu, Tychonic, Zhuravlyov, Kesselring, Zamula, Lankinen, Sogaard, Ingram, Rybar
I suggest that you see what you can get for him. Kuznetsov would be stellar return in my mind. I've seen his sweet plays on YouTube but never really caught onto the hype since its so rare for a defenseman with that size and style to succeed in the pros.
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G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
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Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
murphy had/has huge upside. he was not the most nhl ready by any means. i still belive he will be an nhl points guy.
id take kuznetsov if i had the chance though.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
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