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    Questionn is simple , do any of you feel that Huberdeau is a fair offer for Nash?
    Next question , teams in my sig , should I make the above offer to aquire Nash?
    Thanks in advance.
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    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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    it really depends on what his team looks like and what direction he is going

    would huberdeau definitely make his 6 keepers
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    I can't see that in a keep 6.
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    Thanks for the input , great question.
    I'm not sure , he's got some bubble players but , not much for "fresh" emerging stars.
    I'm more concerned that if I make an offer I don't offend him.I'd be able to add a mid rnd. pick but , he's set pretty good for picks.
    He's got Loungo & Bobs for tenders , so he may be interseted more if I were to include Bernier or Markstrom but , neitherv are very keepable in a keep 6 format.
    Lets see what others have to say/suggest.
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    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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    as if... hubs hasnt done anthing yet.
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    That's not an offer I would make in a keep 6. If it were a full keeper that included salaries it would be a lot closer. Skinner might give you a better shot.

    I'm curious as to why you are targeting Nash at all. LW is your strongest position, hands down. Granted all of your LWers are actually Cs, but that hardly matters if you can play them at LW. What's the thinking behind it?
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    If you get Nash for Huberdeau in a keep 6, it would be a steal of a deal. Huberdeau's value is just not there yet, and Nash is more than just some run of the mill proven player.

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    In our pool Nash is a Rw'er and I have Stepan as a center so I thought it might be "sweet" to have the combo + Nash may come out of his shell in NY.
    I agree it would be a weak offer in a keep 6 but , Hubs is highly reguarded in these parts.
    Just an idea I've been tossing around in my brain.
    Honestly I think I'll stay as is and keep Lundy , Letang , Skinner , Malkin , Voracek.The 6th spot is tough as I could keep Hubs , Stepan , Ennis , Markstrom , etc.
    I've got two 1st's , two 2nds , one 3rd a 4th and then it gets a bit deeper , so I could likely re-draft any of those guys with my picks.
    Hubs is a winger in our pool and I can make him a righty or lefty so he's very tempting to keep and I don't want to use a 1st rnd pick to re-draft him , which is what I would likely end up doing if I don't protect him because I think one of the others would snag him before the 1st rnd of picks are over.
    15 teams , protect 6 , so the top 90 players are gone right from the start.
    Feel free to give me some suggestions and thanks for the input so far!
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    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothfun View Post
    Questionn is simple , do any of you feel that Huberdeau is a fair offer for Nash?
    Next question , teams in my sig , should I make the above offer to aquire Nash?
    Thanks in advance.
    I don't like it, especially with you needing center help. If you move Hubs for a forward, it should be a center.
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    Totally agree I need a better centre option but , that means moving Hubs + a 1st or 2nd or maybe with some luck a 3rd fotr a top 10 centre.
    I could get Lecavilier , spelt wrong I know , at a bargain price , tempting.
    Roto type keeper league.We keep any 6 ;15 teams , 3 div. of 5.We play 3 lines , 3 def. and start 2 goalies.6 BN.Stats are 1pt. for goals and assists , 2pts. for W , tie(O.T. or S.O. loss) 1pt. S.O. 1pt.Weekly line-up from Mon. to Sun.



    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothfun View Post
    Totally agree I need a better centre option but , that means moving Hubs + a 1st or 2nd or maybe with some luck a 3rd fotr a top 10 centre.
    I could get Lecavilier , spelt wrong I know , at a bargain price , tempting.
    If you can offset with a lesser pick comimg back your way, go for it. I think it is well worth it to round out your roster.
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    Think Hubs + a mid rnd pick would be fair?
    Or , because not many GMs looking for players + picks now , most want early picks , I could offer a 3rd and then agree on my late 2nd.Or offer a 4th and try to agree on a mid rnd 3rd , thoughts.
    Roto type keeper league.We keep any 6 ;15 teams , 3 div. of 5.We play 3 lines , 3 def. and start 2 goalies.6 BN.Stats are 1pt. for goals and assists , 2pts. for W , tie(O.T. or S.O. loss) 1pt. S.O. 1pt.Weekly line-up from Mon. to Sun.



    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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    To be honest, I don't see a competitive roster let alone a high end 6th keeper unless you're going with McD, Markstrom or Bernier. If I were you I'd be trying some 2 for 1 deals involving your lesser players to give your six keepers a boost.

    You have an awesome top three with Malkin, Letang and Lundqvist with Skinner tagging along, but until your bottom keepers are rounded out with "can't miss" players then I'd recommend a building phase to achieve that. To me Huberdeau or Nash will make little difference in the coming years until those keepers are strengthened, and in a building phase I would prefer Huberdeau.
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    I agree I have some bubble players but , some of those bubbles are about to burst , Voracek , Stepan , Turris , Ennis are good examples.
    I may make an offer for Datsyuk , spelt wrong I know , I'll have to check on how is early season stats look before I make a move.
    Roto type keeper league.We keep any 6 ;15 teams , 3 div. of 5.We play 3 lines , 3 def. and start 2 goalies.6 BN.Stats are 1pt. for goals and assists , 2pts. for W , tie(O.T. or S.O. loss) 1pt. S.O. 1pt.Weekly line-up from Mon. to Sun.



    C - M. Koivu , Tlusty , Turris , Brunner
    LW - Malkin , Druin , Ennis , Read
    RW - Huberdeau , Gaborik , Simmonds , Bennett
    Def - Pietrangelo , O.E.L. , Barrie , Del Zotto
    G - Loungo , Markstrom , Thomas , Khudobin

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