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    Quote Originally Posted by rangersfury View Post
    If you expected nothing less than losing half a season in order to get the best possible deal then yes, he has done well.
    I've yet to see what they really get out of this that can justify sitting out that long. The contract on paper will look nicer but they are leaving existing money on the table by not playing and they hurt the game's potential to grow. They are in a percentage system so they need to grow the HRR as much as possible for their own benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Smyl View Post
    Its a math equation that gets better and better in time. Do you think the owners would really do this and come out worse off? No way. Bettman has buy in from them based on losing half a year, and giving them back billions.

    On the players side, the flaw is in the design of the union. Its built to protect all members, but the negotiation protects the wealthiest. That said, i think the players might justify their loss by pointing at the $300 million in its entirety, not just the $89 mil portion. Its probably impossible to justify all of their salary loss, but i think they will evaluate fehr highly for getting what he has got so far. Where would the players be if they accepted the nhls first offer in july?
    Yes they will pat themselves on the back but they are fools for doing so.


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    Mayers and Westgarth leave NHL Offices, meetings are done. May not meet again tonight....NHL " up to old tricks' after disclaimer deadline apparently.




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    Players involved in pension meetings just left the NHL offices. Jamal Mayers says he doesn't know if there will be further meetings tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I am actually encouraged by the fact that the meeting last night went to 1am.
    It almost says that they kept pushing on an item because they knew they could get it done.
    People say "let's sleep on it" when they are too far apart to come to an agreement.

    Two sides also met today from 12:30pm-2pm.

    I take this as good news... but who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernnuck View Post
    I guess being millionaires has its own aroma. Peaches?
    lol..That reminded me of the Holy Grail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    lol..That reminded me of the Holy Grail.
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    Meet again tomorrow morning @10am est. Blah...BLAH...BLAH

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    The PA will show up at noon, rinse and repeat.

    At least we can now confirm Bill Daly did not actually die on that hill. Such a sneaky guy. I thought he was done like dinner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    The PA will show up at noon, rinse and repeat.
    Yeah, I've seen this movie too many times. I'm bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic View Post
    Yeah, I've seen this movie too many times. I'm bored.
    Yep, the movie is Braveheart. "hold... Hold... Hold... ".
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    this thing wont get done for another week or two

    Love the braveheart reference - i am pretty sure Bettman mooned Fehr right after they met in the middle of the battlefield to discuss battle terms.

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    The guys at TSN are so right - this lockout is the most embarrassing and irrational in pro sports history. It's a pissing contest. Has nothing to do with gaining money short-term or long-term. It's just about trying to stick it to the other side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    The guys at TSN are so right - this lockout is the most embarrassing and irrational in pro sports history. It's a pissing contest. Has nothing to do with gaining money short-term or long-term. It's just about trying to stick it to the other side.
    So very true, unfortunately.
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    i dont think it is.

    If bettman "owned" the league, and Fehr "owned" the players, then i might agree.

    When was the last time you let your money manager make emotional decisions with your investments? Why would the owners let bettman get in a co<k fight with their cash? same for the players - why would the middle class allow donald fehr to mess with their careers and livelihood to win an emotional fight. Thats not what this is, even if it looks that way.

    Bettman and Fehr work for their bosses, they have a business plan, and are both doing the best they can for their sides. These guys are shrewed negotiators, and we only get info via the media. We are not in the room. This is just part of the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Smyl View Post
    i dont think it is.

    If bettman "owned" the league, and Fehr "owned" the players, then i might agree.

    When was the last time you let your money manager make emotional decisions with your investments? Why would the owners let bettman get in a co<k fight with their cash? same for the players - why would the middle class allow donald fehr to mess with their careers and livelihood to win an emotional fight. Thats not what this is, even if it looks that way.

    Bettman and Fehr work for their bosses, they have a business plan, and are both doing the best they can for their sides. These guys are shrewed negotiators, and we only get info via the media. We are not in the room. This is just part of the process.
    Business plan??? You're kidding right? Go back and look at the NHL's business plan over the last 20 years. They even lost when they got the salary cap they wanted.

    And the players... good business plan too right? Aren't these the same players that said hell no to a salary cap, lost a season and took the salary cap anyway? They are morons and are just looking for stuff to be mad about right now.


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    I hope the fans show their displeasure at all the disrespect (or is it disregard) the NHL and NHLPA are showing them. This is a good read about fans' perspective on the lockout.

    It's easy for me not to contribute: I live in Toronto where ticket prices are more than I'm willing to spend to see a crappy team. And I don't pay for NHL center ice or whatever other packages feed into the money pit from which the NHL digs. No jersies either, never quite got the appeal of that. But I'm afraid, a lot of fans won't be able to resist and will flock right back. These two greedy, shameless sides need to be taught a lesson.
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