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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    So - does the player still get their money?
    Or is their some NHLPA pot involved?
    (I honestly still don't get it)

    Who would be some likely examples?
    DiPietro (NYI)?
    Anybody else?
    I assume the buy-out will still have the same rules as before. The team has to pay out 1/3 of the total remaining salary if the player is young enough, otherwise it's 2/3 of the remaining salary. Let's say a player has 15 million bucks left on his contract and he gets bought out. That's 10 million dollars that won't count against the team's salary cap. Not even the cap savings will count against it, like normal buy-outs. The player gets those 10 million since that's 2/3 of the total remaining 15 million dollars. Those 10 million in turn count against the player pool of salary that is counted towards the total league revenue for escrow and whatnot, which means that it's 10 million less for all other players to make that year.

    At least that's my take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    So - does the player still get their money?
    Or is their some NHLPA pot involved?
    (I honestly still don't get it)

    Who would be some likely examples?
    DiPietro (NYI)?
    Anybody else?
    redden, gomez...

    the bought out players would have to still collect their money (unless they agree to take less?)

    player contracts are tied to hrr. this clause would reduce players portion of hrr for any given seasons that a bought out player was under contract for. could be a big deal. might not. would have to dig up a list of players that would actually be bought out and figure out how much money is tied to each year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakkster View Post
    I assume the buy-out will still have the same rules as before. The team has to pay out 1/3 of the total remaining salary if the player is young enough, otherwise it's 2/3 of the remaining salary. Let's say a player has 15 million bucks left on his contract and he gets bought out. That's 10 million dollars that won't count against the team's salary cap. Not even the cap savings will count against it, like normal buy-outs. The player gets those 10 million since that's 2/3 of the total remaining 15 million dollars. Those 10 million in turn count against the player pool of salary that is counted towards the total league revenue for escrow and whatnot, which means that it's 10 million less for all other players to make that year.

    At least that's my take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Oh the joy of it all. I almost wish these things stayed quiet instead of being bantered by media. Just let us know when a deal is actually done.
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    here's a take on how the buyouts could work....

    http://oilersnation.com/2012/12/13/n...to-save-season

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    Quote Originally Posted by InnocentBystander View Post
    here's a take on how the buyouts could work....

    http://oilersnation.com/2012/12/13/n...to-save-season

    Oooo... solid link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Oooo... solid link.
    I like when I gets smrtr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    Send me some. I'm grieving the loss of Bill who was left on his hill by Gary...
    PW7 could always auction off the REP. Just post up the ebay link! lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by arctic_rogue View Post
    PW7 could always auction off the REP. Just post up the ebay link! lmao
    That would be as sad as people paying for Twitter followers...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    That would be as sad as people paying for Twitter followers...
    Oh. *never makes reference to my twitter followers again*
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    A funny quote from twitter today:

    "NHL offer today is the set-up for league's rejection of PA's counterpropsal in a few days. We're still two weeks from closure."

    The sad thing is, its probably accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    A funny quote from twitter today:

    "NHL offer today is the set-up for league's rejection of PA's counterpropsal in a few days. We're still two weeks from closure."

    The sad thing is, its probably accurate.
    Exactly my thought. The sad thing is that it's true. Oh well...
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    I'm guessing this isn't the deal maker.

    I don't like to be pessimistic but I do like to be right and in NHL labour talks there is a lot of overlap between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loch View Post
    I'm guessing this isn't the deal maker.

    I don't like to be pessimistic but I do like to be right and in NHL labour talks there is a lot of overlap between the two.
    Who really knows (outside of the NHLPA, that is). This could be the offer that gets it done or an another offer that leads to counter that leads to another week of silence.

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    Interesting quote:

    https://twitter.com/dshoalts/status/284720430735032323

    "NHL exec: Key is Jan 5. Need a deal by then to allow for 1 wk legal paperwork, 1 wk for camp, first puck drop Jan. 19. Otherwise it's over."

    Could be smoke or could be truth. Either way, the deadline date cant be far off.
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