Reply With QuoteI like this. Add in Galchenyuk and slide down Ovechkin some.Originally Posted by bigbabybuda
1. Crosby
2. Malkin
3. Tavares
4. RNH
5. Stamkos
6. McDavid
7. Giroux
8. Kopitar
9. Ovechkin
10. Drouin
11. Huberdeau
12. Eberle
13. Seguin
14. Kuznetsov
15. Some random kid born in 2001
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I like this. Add in Galchenyuk and slide down Ovechkin some.
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G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
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I love how low everyone is placing Ovechkin
There's a reason we don't do these kinds of predictions because when Ovechkin posts 90 plus points again under the tutelage of Oats then he'll be in the top 4 again.
In all the replies I read, the highest anyonne had him was 4th, after that 5th and then I think 9th or 10th.
Heck, some of you didn't even have him listed! (One of you also forgot Malkin)
I would. Love to revisit this in 3 seasons and take a look at the standings and see who was closest
Writing from my blackberry (yes I still have one!) So my prediction will be forthcoming and I will let you know now that he won't be lower than 2nd.
Just my 2c
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What the heck - I'll join the fun. And let me be the first not to put Crosby on top...
1. Tavares
2. Crosby
3. Seguin
4. Ovechkin
5. Giroux
6. Malkin
7. Backstrom
8. Couture
9. Eberle
10. Stamkos
11. Huberdeau
12. Parise
13. Yakupov
14. Benn
15. Kovalchuk
Two dark horses that just miss the cut: Ennis and (dare I say it) Cervenka.
But really just guessing.
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other notable
duchesne
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keeper league 18 GM sixth years
Goal(1pts),helper(1pts),Victory(2pts),SO(1 pts)
forward**
t seguin.... j hudler..... m lucic
j benn..... a steen
e malkin..... w simmonds
a Kopitar.... t ennis
def**
d doughty a markov
s weber
goalies**
s mason
just for the fun
what the difference in points from the first to fifteenth
this year 109 to 76 (malkin to gaborik)
my guess
stamkos 105 to hall 81
keeper league 18 GM sixth years
Goal(1pts),helper(1pts),Victory(2pts),SO(1 pts)
forward**
t seguin.... j hudler..... m lucic
j benn..... a steen
e malkin..... w simmonds
a Kopitar.... t ennis
def**
d doughty a markov
s weber
goalies**
s mason
I didnt list him in my top 15 because I dont see him getting back to that point again. The skill level is there (now, but is declining) but his problem isnt the skill. His problem is the attitude. He just doesnt seem to want to compete the way he used to. If you think this is what Adam Oates will bring to the table, all the power to ya. I have my doubts and there's too many other skilled players with more heart and desire to place in my top 15, five years from now. Until he does something to prove me wrong, I will stick with him NOT being in the top 15 scorers, next year or any other year going forward.I love how low everyone is placing Ovechkin
There's a reason we don't do these kinds of predictions because when Ovechkin posts 90 plus points again under the tutelage of Oats then he'll be in the top 4 again.
In all the replies I read, the highest anyonne had him was 4th, after that 5th and then I think 9th or 10th.
Heck, some of you didn't even have him listed! (One of you also forgot Malkin
I would. Love to revisit this in 3 seasons and take a look at the standings and see who was closest
Writing from my blackberry (yes I still have one!) So my prediction will be forthcoming and I will let you know now that he won't be lower than 2nd.
Just my 2c
Thats the fun part of doing these, it's simply our own opinion. This just happens to be mine.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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Ovechkin will be 32 in 5 years. This doesnt mean he will automatically suck, but it does increase the chances that he declines in output getting passed by the younger guys, gets injured more often based on how he plays, or isnt even in the nhl anymore!
I left Ovechkin off my list.
I think he'll be a top 10 player for 1-2 more years... but I believe that young Oilers group is all going to explode soon and that's 3-4 players that could jump him.
Ovechkin's game/style reminds me most similarly of Pavel Bure. Goalscorers just typically seem to wear down a little faster & earlier in their careers.
Bure put up monster years through the age of 30 (2001, born in '71) and then hit the wall with NYR.
Another potentially comparable Russian player is Alexander Mogilny.
Mogilny was pretty solid through the age of 32... but 3 of his 4 years after that were sub-PPG.
My biggest concern with Ovechkin is that he has that monster contract that pays him $10m/year through 2021 (another 8 years!). I don't know... at the age of 27, knowing you've got another 8 years of $10m coming your way... how hard is somebody going to try to stay at the top of their game. I have serious doubts about him putting up 90pts ever again.
seguin sucks. and hamilton too. jared knight too for the hell of it.
Thanks Steamer! I love threads like this!
Based on the 7 seasons since the lockout, the average top 15 scorer by years from draft are:
(0-2) - 1.43
(3-5) - 3.00
(6-8) - 3.14
(9-11) - 4.00
(12-14) - 1.57
(15 +) - 1.86
Generally the players were 1st rounders and a majority are high 1st rounders. (Martin St Louis was the freak outlier being in the top 15 four times after never being drafted!)
Most under-rated (by me) Joe Thornton was on the most (six of seven) top 15s. Respect!
So if were talking about the 2017-18 season, Ill take
1 guy from the 2015-17 drafts Connor McDavid
3 from the 2012-14 Yakupov, McKinnon, Galchenyuk
3 from the 2009-11 Tavares, Seguin, RNH
4 from the 2006-08 Kessel, Stamkos, Eberle, Schultz (strictly a hope & prayer since I have him in my league only Karlsson made a top 15 as a D)
2 from 2003-05 Eric Staal, Malkin
2 from 2002 and prior Sedin, Sedin
Notable omissions due to injury risks/playing style Crosby, Hall, Giroux
Notable omissions due to flakiness Ovechkin, Kane
Interesting way of looking at it. I love the omissions due to flakiness.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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LOVE the omissions due to flakiness! But, I have to ask...are you suggesting P.Kane or E.Kane, as both could be viewed as a little flaky!?!?
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Unlimited call-ups = 134 gms
G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, W, GAA, S, SV%
C: Stamkos, Stepan, Little, T.J.
W: Kessel, MaGranlund, Simmonds, Landeskog, Hall, Lucic, B.Ritchie, Burakovsky
D: Gogo, Keith, Leddy, Dumba, Barrie, Forbert,
G: Rask/Anderson/Mason
B: Filppula/Hartman/Vrbata/Clendening
Farm: Chartier, Forsbacka Karlsson, Bowers, Chmelevski, Geekie, Gourde, AMorand, MShaw, Haapala, Merkley, Katchouk, Korshkov, Kovacs, Shinkaruk, Lindblom, O'Regan, Bear, Bengtsson, Jokiharju, Kylington, Paigin, Grzelcyk, Stanley, Vaakanainen, Koekkoek, Walman, Fitzpatrick, Berube, Pickard, Zhukov
Ha ha - true. But I was thinking Patrick.
You got me excited, as a Jets fan and E.Kane owner, when you suggested the flaky Kane as a top end scorer! In the back of my head, I knew it was Patrick, but I was just hoping
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Unlimited call-ups = 134 gms
G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, W, GAA, S, SV%
C: Stamkos, Stepan, Little, T.J.
W: Kessel, MaGranlund, Simmonds, Landeskog, Hall, Lucic, B.Ritchie, Burakovsky
D: Gogo, Keith, Leddy, Dumba, Barrie, Forbert,
G: Rask/Anderson/Mason
B: Filppula/Hartman/Vrbata/Clendening
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