Reply With QuoteJesus...he's crying at the podium...can't even get the words out...
Jesus...he's crying at the podium...can't even get the words out...
@SmittysRant
That was an emotional speech ..... you could see how much he was struggling.Originally Posted by Bomm Bastic
I've never seen that in my lifetime. That was heart wrenching.
@SmittysRant
Bring it up Dakkster, it's the elephant in the room. These tragedies are only becoming more common and with an increasingly devastating toll taken.
Your right in that our gun laws need addressing asap, and your right to bring that up since it plays a role in horrors like this. But there is a larger problem at work here. People have come completely unraveled mentally, they have no ability to work through their issues without resorting to violence. The smallest slight or setback, be it real or perceived, and people can't deal with it mentally and feel the need to escalate things to the point of murder.
Guns have been prevalent in the U.S. from day one, but acts like this were very few and very far between until the later half of 1900's. A key difference is somewhere, somehow, the human race has lost the ability to handle obstacles, disappointments in a rational manner. It seems as if everywhere you look tempers are on a hair trigger. Add in all the guns and it's a recipe for carnage, and all the more heartbreaking as it's preventable.
More enlightened gun laws didn't stop Anders Breivik. Draconian gun laws didn't stop the guy earlier this week in China from attacking and injuring 22 kids with a knife. Yes we desperately need to overhaul things to make guns less prevalent, but let's also not overlook the other issues that drive things like this. It all goes hand in hand, anger, hatred, the easy access to weapons, not just guns. Take away guns they'll use knives, clubs, or worse case scenario, bombs.
Those bent on acts like this will find some avenue to achieve their evil ends. We as a whole, the human race, need to really do some major soul searching and figure out why have we, in spite of all our advancements, seemingly become more base and animalistic in our treatment of one another. But it also needs to be coupled with tighter gun control.
I have less hope, and use, for humanity as the days go by. Maybe this really is the end of days, and instead of some cosmic, meteorological, or geological event that will do us in, it will be our own f--ked up psyches. We're not going to be wiped out by an asteroid, mega-hurricane, or global warming, we're just going to flat out f--king kill ourselves off, one lunatic at a time.
So damn sad that so much innocence was wiped out, and so many families forever destroyed in one fell swoop.
Last edited by NoWayOut; December 14, 2012 at 3:28 PM.
Your beer mug isn't half-empty, your just half-way to the next refill.....
How does a 20 year old even get a gun? Isn't the age 21?
Accessibility is an issue. But it's also an over simplification of a larger complex societal problem. Merely adding a law to the books won't resolve the bigger problem:
An increasing disregard for the appreciation and value of a life generally, and the daily indignity with which we treat our neighbors. Owed to - in varying degrees - apathy of self awareness, tv, news/media, politicians, [poor] parenting, technological advances...etc.
@SmittysRant
Having a 3-year old daughter... I can't tell you how much this story hurts.
I already wake up occassionally from a nightmare of losing her.
I think my wife & I would both fall apart if we lost her.
Personally, I'm fully on board with outlawing guns in the US.
I do believe that's a big part of the problem.
The harder part of the problem is avoiding the mental tangents that are setting off young males. It always seems like it's a male, age 18-40. That's mostly the DobberHockey demographic, true? WTF is wrong with us! Is there some key milestone in our life (not getting laid? not getting through college? not getting a good job?) that leads somebody down such a slippery slope?
Reminds me a bit of that movie called "Minority Report".
I wonder if someday our minds would/should be tapped to the point that some statistic about how our neurons are firing will alert authorities to us being dangerous.
I don't know...
...it's sad, for sure.
Prayers to the families.
Blaming gun laws is a total cop-out. Obviously they need to be revised but that's not why this happened, nor would stricter gun laws prevent it. This person decided to do this. He would have found a way to do it regardless.
Whenever I see the gun control argument, it makes me think of a protest where there was one guy wearing a t-shirt that said "spoons made me fat, make them illegal".
We're all human beings and we're all 100% accountable for the decisions we make.
this is true. something is very wrong in a person's life when they make a decision like the young man did today. not condoning his actions, but a lot of people let this guy down to get him to where he was today.
Help us all with random acts of kindness
Another tragic loss of innocent human life. We are all someone's children. We are all accountable for our actions because we do have a choice before we act. No matter what age, hug your kids today or your parents, family, best friend etc. Spread the love and show someone you care. Random acts of kindness. Don't give up faith in your fellow man. It starts inside us all, change the world one random act of kindness one day at a time.
Peace out
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True to a point, perhaps, but if there were a piece of cake w/a fork sticking out of it waiting for you at every turn during your daily routine - pre-plated just waiting for you - you might be more inclined to eat it.
Again, it's not the existence of guns (or spoon or fork) it's the accessibility. The NRA is being intellectually dishonest when it focuses solely on the former.
'Human' being the operative word, as opposed to automatons. I don't believe pornography causes sex addicts to rape, but I also don't want my street lined with Adult Video stores.
@SmittysRant
add this incident in china to today's chaos...
people can do damage without guns too...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...ck-school.html
Luckily none of them were killed - would it be the same if the guy had a gun?
Its not as simple as just controlling guns, but the availability and relative ease of acquiring them is a major factor.
Last edited by PrairieDog; December 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM.
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Studies on the effectiveness of gun control laws are incredibly unclear.
Studies on the effectiveness of relationships are not.
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