NHL Lockout Clock

[Carcillo]

Bettman spent the last 4 or 5 years saying how the league is doing great and revenue is sky high. Again, why not re-evaluate the teams in struggling markets. There's more to than just cutting in to the pie. Although, I do agree that 50-50 should be a standard split.

The league is (or should I say was) doing great and revenues were sky high. Doesn't mean there's no issues to be fixed though. Like you said 50/50 should be standard split and yet we got a huge fight over that split. Hardly NHL's, and only NHL's fault.

Yes, they should re-evaluate those too. But just last year Atlanta moved to Winnipeg so clearly they've been doing that. Islanders moving to Brooklyn also helps a lot. Phoenix should have moved a long time ago though, I'm not going to defend on how that situations been handled. Beyond that I don't think any of the struggling markets should be relocated. I think hockey has its place in Nashville, Columbus, St.Louis etc. Those teams should be much better off with even just going to 50/50 split. Florida has a sweet arena deal which guarantees that they'll stay there a long time and will do just fine.

[ericdaoust]

Bettman spent the last 4 or 5 years saying how the league is doing great and revenue is sky high. Again, why not re-evaluate the teams in struggling markets. There's more to than just cutting in to the pie. Although, I do agree that 50-50 should be a standard split.

Bettman was saying the same thing leading up to the 2004 lockout. He's a lawyer. It's all about positive spin when it is convenient.

[arctic_rogue]

Bettman was saying the same thing leading up to the 2004 lockout. He's a lawyer. It's all about positive spin when it is convenient.

That's totally my point. I'm not trying to say the players are at all innocent in this sh*t storm and it definitely isn't all their fault either. I think both the NHL and the PA have to equally shoulder the blame on this.

[ericdaoust]

That's totally my point. I'm not trying to say the players are at all innocent in this sh*t storm and it definitely isn't all their fault either. I think both the NHL and the PA have to equally shoulder the blame on this.

Oh definitely. I just think the players are always on more fragile ground in these matters. They are tied to a percentage system so it is in their best interest to protect that. The percent number shouldn't be the target, but rather the grand total to draw from.

[DuklaNation]

Bettman was saying the same thing leading up to the 2004 lockout. He's a lawyer. It's all about positive spin when it is convenient.

Of course he's going to say that. In reality there are too many teams struggling to be self-sufficient. And that is the problem here. The previous cap & floor system with 57% of revenue going to the overall cap is not sustainable and was clearly a mistake from the previous lockout. Last season $64m ceiling, $48m floor, what did it start out at? $39m ceiling, $23m floor ( a FIXED spread of $16m). The fixed spread was a boneheaded decision and is a result of lawyers negotiating these systems, they're trained to argue a system, not for designing one. Every team at the floor equals $1.44B. HRR was $3.3B so thats 44%. Every team at the ceiling would be at 58%. Most teams are close to the ceiling hence the problem currently. Salaries are artificially set to the teams closer to the ceiling but all markets are not equal.