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    For my Voracek. I initially said no.
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    Marleau is one of those guys that procudes at a good level but nobody likes him. I'd also rather take my chances with Voracek than have Marleau. Marleau is just so boring. Nothing exiciting in owning him. Even if he outscores Voracek by 10 points it likely won't kill your chances in winning your league. Take your chances with Voracek and him reaching his upside next to Giroux.
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    I'd take Marleau in a heart-beat.
    Voracek is all hype at this point.

    We have all been discussing the possibility of Voracek being Giroux's RW to start an upcoming season (to replace Jagr).

    But the way Brayden Schenn is playing, he might end up being designated for that spot instead of Voracek.

    I'd totally take Marleau (proven) over Voracek (hype).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeeps View Post
    For my Voracek. I initially said no.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    I'd totally take Marleau (proven) over Voracek (hype).
    I'd take Marleau as well. You know what you're going to get and even though Voracek could breakout, Marleau could also get back to 70-75 points easily, which would be 20-25 points higher than Voracek's career high. Marleau is also just 33 years old and has a few good years left in him.

    Just curious - was this the initial offer? If so, I would consider going back and try to get a bit of an upgrade (picks, depth, not sure what suits) to see if the other manager bites. But that is as a bonus as I would do it straight up.
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    If your team is competitive this year or the league favors shots and goals, go with Marleau. He is pretty consistent and his only draw back is his age compared to Voracek.
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    I'd take Marleau over Voracek as well. If you could get a pick thrown in, it'd be gravy.
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    If your goal is to win a league title in the next 3-4 years, then it makes a lot more sense to go with Marleau in this instance. Voracek has nice upside but at the end of the day, theres no guarantee in upside. Marleau on the other hand can be over a point per game player and at worse, is a 65-70 pt player.

    Even if you don't believe your squad will be in a position to win a title anytime soon, Marleau should carry more trade value in most league formats, so owning him should in theory fetch you a better return than Voracek, all things considered.
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    I will go against the grain here and say I would of said no too. Marleau is already 33 and his production has fallen the last 3 years. If the pattern continues then he would be in the 50-55 point range this year. While Voracek is only 23 and he already has been close to 50 point mark the last 3 seasons. This year he will line up with Giroux and Hartnell anf you know his point totals will only go up. I have Voracek at 65 points this year.
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    as a voracek owner i think id say no too. the value is there but im buying the hype on voracek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Marleau is one of those guys that procudes at a good level but nobody likes him. I'd also rather take my chances with Voracek than have Marleau. Marleau is just so boring. Nothing exiciting in owning him. Even if he outscores Voracek by 10 points it likely won't kill your chances in winning your league. Take your chances with Voracek and him reaching his upside next to Giroux.
    To that I say who cares about boring? Production = wins. I think this trade is close with their respective trends going in opposite directions but I'm not ready to crown Voracek as a star yet. I think Marleau is the guy to go with here.
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    If anyone cares.... Jeremy Roenick's #3 hated player = Patrick Marleau

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    I will take boring-ass Marleau and his lack of charisma and leadership skills over an unproven kid like Voracek any day.

    More importantly, in a league where you have to dress FOUR left-wingers, then Marleau >>> Voracek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    More importantly, in a league where you have to dress FOUR left-wingers, then Marleau >>> Voracek.
    I see how it's laid out, but I assumed it's four for each forward position.

    Skeeps, you should re-format it to make it more clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    I see how it's laid out, but I assumed it's four for each forward position.
    That's what I assumed as well. Given the dearth of talent at LW, then a guy like Patty is ridiculously valuable if that's the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    That's what I assumed as well. Given the dearth of talent at LW, then a guy like Patty is ridiculously valuable if that's the case.
    Oh ok - though it was the 4W, C, RW (meaning one for the others, which seemed ridiculous). I don't have the facts to back it up, but I believe that LW (on Yahoo at least given their insane eligibility) is not necessarily the most scarce position anymore.

    That being said, like you I would rather a proven guy whose 64 points last season was his worst in four years and has plenty of opportunity to bounce back over a guy whose career high is 50 and is given this amount of hype due to his 'potential' linemate.

    I see people's arguments about steady decline but when you score 83 points in a season it's pretty much guaranteed unless you are one of the best players in the league you will decline from there. His 12% shooting percentage is lower than his career average of 14.2 and his lowest since 07/08. No guarantees he improves but I'll take what I feel is the safer option.
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