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    Hello fellow dobberites,

    I've got a draft coming up this week, and am looking for some help ranking some prospects.

    I currently have pick #5, 15 and 16 in the first two rounds.

    In our pool, young and cheap dmen and dmen prospects tend to be the most coveted players, due to our 1.5 pts per dman point and we use the cap hit.

    I've got a list of ~30 available players, and would love some help putting them in some sort of of a Top 20. Thanks in advance.

    Also, if i'm missing anyone from the 2012 draft that should be included, please feel free to add them.

    Atkinson
    Barberio
    Berglund
    Bjugstad
    Brodie
    Brodin
    Ceci
    Cervenka
    Conacher
    Dumba
    Etem
    Forsberg
    Galchenyuk
    Grigorenko
    Jarnkrok
    Kreider
    Larsen
    Moore
    Morrow
    Murray
    Palmeiri
    Pulkkinen
    Rattie
    Reilly
    Saad
    Schultz
    Shore
    Silfverberg
    Stone
    Teravainen
    Vatanen
    Yakupov
    10 Tm, Pts Only Salary Cap Dynasty (UFAs dropped if not signed by July 1st)
    20 Active, 12 AHL/Reserve (AHL Eligibility: Fwd, Dman = 246 NHL GP, G = 150 NHL GP) (Pts: G, A, dman pt 0.5; G = W, SO)

    Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
    F: Crosby, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Scheifele, Hertl, Atkinson, Perreault, Pirri, Schwartz, Bournival
    D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Brodin, Faulk
    G: Quick, Bobrovsky

    Reserve
    F: Nichushkin, Strome, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore, Zucker, Armia
    D: Merrill, Gormley, Vatanen, Carrick
    G: Allen, Markstrom, Berra

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    this is just cuting and pasting your list a bit with not a ton of thought to it but its a start. im sure youll get a bunch of different lists anyways to compare.

    Yakupov
    Grigorenko
    Galchenyuk
    Schultz
    Reilly
    Kreider
    Forsberg
    Murray
    Dumba
    Berglund
    Bjugstad
    Silfverberg
    Brodin
    Rattie
    Etem
    Morrow
    Moore
    Palmeiri
    Stone
    Teravainen
    Ceci
    Brodie
    Vatanen
    Atkinson
    Barberio
    Larsen
    Conacher
    Pulkkinen
    Cervenka
    Jarnkrok
    Saad
    Shore
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    G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinsrangers View Post
    this is just cuting and pasting your list a bit with not a ton of thought to it but its a start. im sure youll get a bunch of different lists anyways to compare.
    Thanks! This is exactly what i'm looking for, and hopefully i'll be able to get a couple to help compare

    i listed it alphabetically to start, so i wouldn't give away my own rankings, incase i get trolled by the guys in my league
    10 Tm, Pts Only Salary Cap Dynasty (UFAs dropped if not signed by July 1st)
    20 Active, 12 AHL/Reserve (AHL Eligibility: Fwd, Dman = 246 NHL GP, G = 150 NHL GP) (Pts: G, A, dman pt 0.5; G = W, SO)

    Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
    F: Crosby, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Scheifele, Hertl, Atkinson, Perreault, Pirri, Schwartz, Bournival
    D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Brodin, Faulk
    G: Quick, Bobrovsky

    Reserve
    F: Nichushkin, Strome, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore, Zucker, Armia
    D: Merrill, Gormley, Vatanen, Carrick
    G: Allen, Markstrom, Berra

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    Yakupov
    Schultz
    Galchenyuk
    Bjugstad
    Berglund
    Grigorenko
    Forsberg
    Rielly
    Silfverberg
    Kreider
    Dumba
    Vatanen
    Murray
    Morrow
    Barberio
    Brodin
    Rattie
    Conacher
    Saad
    K Palmieri
    Atkinson
    Teravainen
    Etem
    Stone
    Cervenka
    Ceci
    Larsen
    Brodie
    Jarnkrok
    Pulkkinen
    Shore
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    C - Crosby, Getzlaf, Seguin
    LW - Neal, E. Kane
    RW - Perry, Voracek
    D - Letang, Chara, Franson, D. Boyle, Faulk
    Util - Hossa, Eller, Gallagher, Pavelski
    G - Rask, Lehtonen

    BENCH
    M. Koivu, Iginla, Hartnell, Elias, J. Williams, Del Zotto, Gardiner, Bogosian, McDonagh, Fasth, Lack

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    Drouin, Monahan, Forsberg, Bjugstad, Shinkaruk, Domi, Donovan, R. Murphy.

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    So i had actually messed up and had the #6, 16 and 17th over all picks.

    I was shocked to have Grigorenko fall to #6, so i had to make a decision between Grigs and Bjugstad, and ended up taking Grigs. I tried to trade up in the 2nd round, but the guy i was trying to trade with wanted Bjugstad.

    The draft ended up being a bit of a crap shoot, some guys were prepared, some weren't, others had needs they wanted to fill that i didn't account for. I think i reached for Hertl and Lindholm, but i do think they have enough upside and opportunity to justify the picks.

    My picks:

    6. Grigorenko
    16. Forsberg
    17. Teravainen
    21. Hertl
    29. Lindholm
    36. Conacher
    45. Stone
    46. Vatanen
    47. Nelson
    50. Donovan
    56. Brodin
    60. Shore
    66. Palmieri
    86. Pirri
    96. Faksa
    Last edited by j_diddy; December 14, 2012 at 12:31 PM. Reason: updated with draft pick numbers
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    20 Active, 12 AHL/Reserve (AHL Eligibility: Fwd, Dman = 246 NHL GP, G = 150 NHL GP) (Pts: G, A, dman pt 0.5; G = W, SO)

    Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
    F: Crosby, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Scheifele, Hertl, Atkinson, Perreault, Pirri, Schwartz, Bournival
    D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Brodin, Faulk
    G: Quick, Bobrovsky

    Reserve
    F: Nichushkin, Strome, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore, Zucker, Armia
    D: Merrill, Gormley, Vatanen, Carrick
    G: Allen, Markstrom, Berra

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_diddy View Post
    Hello fellow dobberites,

    I've got a draft coming up this week, and am looking for some help ranking some prospects.

    I currently have pick #5, 15 and 16 in the first two rounds.

    In our pool, young and cheap dmen and dmen prospects tend to be the most coveted players, due to our 1.5 pts per dman point and we use the cap hit.

    I've got a list of ~30 available players, and would love some help putting them in some sort of of a Top 20. Thanks in advance.

    Also, if i'm missing anyone from the 2012 draft that should be included, please feel free to add them.

    Atkinson
    Barberio
    Berglund
    Bjugstad
    Brodie
    Brodin
    Ceci
    Cervenka
    Conacher
    Dumba
    Etem
    Forsberg
    Galchenyuk
    Grigorenko
    Jarnkrok
    Kreider
    Larsen
    Moore
    Morrow
    Murray
    Palmeiri
    Pulkkinen
    Rattie
    Reilly
    Saad
    Schultz
    Shore
    Silfverberg
    Stone
    Teravainen
    Vatanen
    Yakupov
    My top five:

    Yakupov
    Schultz
    Galchenyuk
    Bjugstad
    Rielly
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    Quote Originally Posted by j_diddy View Post
    Grigorenko
    Forsberg
    Teravainen
    Hertl
    Lindholm
    Conacher
    Stone
    Vatanen
    Nelson
    Donovan
    Brodin
    Shore
    Palmieri
    Pirri
    Faksa
    Great job, you did well getting Grigs at 6, Forsberg at 16 and Teravainen at 17. Could you let us know what number the other picks were? Looks like a real solid draft for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandalay View Post
    Great job, you did well getting Grigs at 6, Forsberg at 16 and Teravainen at 17. Could you let us know what number the other picks were? Looks like a real solid draft for you.
    Thanks Vandalay, i've gone back and updated my picks with their numbers.

    The draft this year was done with two expansion teams (league is now at 10 teams, finally), a number of teams looking to fill roster spots and was planned with one weeks notice (just incase the unthinkable happens, and the NHL and PA sign a CBA during the holidays, we wanted to make sure we could get a draft done, which during the holiday week would have been impossible).

    my plan going in, as most of my roster is mostly full, was to try and get a blue-chip prospect or two, and then a mix of high-ceiling new prospects (forsberg, teravainen and hertl) and some AHL experienced and cheap prospects that might contribute right away (Conacher, Palmieri and Donovan). The rest were good cap hits/value with opportunities to make their NHL teams with a good camp.

    the reason Grigs fell to 6th was because Cam Ward and Ryan Murray were picked in the top 5, both of those i didn't see coming, and as such had to make a decision between grigs and bjugstad at #6.
    10 Tm, Pts Only Salary Cap Dynasty (UFAs dropped if not signed by July 1st)
    20 Active, 12 AHL/Reserve (AHL Eligibility: Fwd, Dman = 246 NHL GP, G = 150 NHL GP) (Pts: G, A, dman pt 0.5; G = W, SO)

    Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
    F: Crosby, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Scheifele, Hertl, Atkinson, Perreault, Pirri, Schwartz, Bournival
    D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Brodin, Faulk
    G: Quick, Bobrovsky

    Reserve
    F: Nichushkin, Strome, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore, Zucker, Armia
    D: Merrill, Gormley, Vatanen, Carrick
    G: Allen, Markstrom, Berra

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_diddy View Post
    6. Grigorenko - right choice over Bjugstad
    16. Forsberg - steal
    17. Teravainen - solid, high risk high reward
    21. Hertl - solid, putting up great numbers against men, clearcut #1 prospect for SJ
    29. Lindholm - nice, his value will skyrocket after the WJC I bet
    36. Conacher - fair, could contribute very soon
    45. Stone - solid, AHL time is a good thing
    46. Vatanen - high risk, high reward, like it
    47. Nelson - excellent choice, very underrated
    50. Donovan - has chance at cracking roster soon (and PP time)
    56. Brodin - absolute steal here
    60. Shore - solid if Drew, if Nick, ok
    66. Palmieri - if this is Kyle this is your steal of the draft
    86. Pirri - very underrated, I like him
    96. Faksa - absolute steal, surprised he made it out of the top 30
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    Quote Originally Posted by vandalay View Post
    Comments above.
    Thanks for the feedback.

    It is Drew Shore and Kyle Palmieri.

    with the Faksa pick, i was picking between him, Jarnkrok, Jurco, Krug and Andy-Marchessault.

    Krug and Andy-Marchessault would have been huge risk, maybe mediocre return.

    And Jarnkrok and Jurco have great potential, and will be developed the right way by Detroit, but they may not make the NHL for 3-5 years with the talent that is ahead of them.

    Faksa could play with Dallas right away, and with Roy being an UFA next year, Faksa could be playing Top 6 minutes in his 2nd year.

    The only downside to the draft is that i'll have to drop half of my picks to get my AHL roster to 12, once the season starts.
    10 Tm, Pts Only Salary Cap Dynasty (UFAs dropped if not signed by July 1st)
    20 Active, 12 AHL/Reserve (AHL Eligibility: Fwd, Dman = 246 NHL GP, G = 150 NHL GP) (Pts: G, A, dman pt 0.5; G = W, SO)

    Active (12 F, 6 D, 2G)
    F: Crosby, E. Kane, Benn, JVR, Scheifele, Hertl, Atkinson, Perreault, Pirri, Schwartz, Bournival
    D: J. Johnson, Goligoski, Carlson, Shattenkirk, Brodin, Faulk
    G: Quick, Bobrovsky

    Reserve
    F: Nichushkin, Strome, Grigorenko, Teravainen, Shore, Zucker, Armia
    D: Merrill, Gormley, Vatanen, Carrick
    G: Allen, Markstrom, Berra

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