Reply With QuoteTime to line the babies up at the gas station to get a real job for a while. I was pro players at the start of all of this but I hope the union gets blown to bits and a whole whack of players lose their jobs.
@SWhyno: "Fire Bettman" here at the Verizon Center.
Derek Reese - Future Hall of Famer
14 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty
H2H, Salary Cap 108 Mil, Player actual salaries
1 Week scoring period
G,A,PTS,GWG,PIM,SOG,STP,HT,BL,+/-,W,GAA,SV,SO
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
F - Marchand, Marner, Marchessault, Stamkos, Tuch, Comtois, Farabee, Bennett, McCann, W. Nylander, Nugent-Hopkins, Kapanen
D - Barrie, Oleksiak, Suter, Gudbranson, Savard, Lyubushkin, Ferraro
G - Saros, Rittich
Bench - Mittelstadt, Reimer, Roslovic, Keller, Reaves, Toews
Prospects - Byfield, Mercer, Veleno, Chmelevski, Tippett, Comrie, Tomasino, Valimaki, Gustavsson, Wolf
Time to line the babies up at the gas station to get a real job for a while. I was pro players at the start of all of this but I hope the union gets blown to bits and a whole whack of players lose their jobs.
It's one thing for the union to come out and say that they are close and optimistic and just waiting to iron out the details. But for the NHL to vehemently contradict this with such anger is another thing. Bettman and Daly stated that the players understood it was a take it or leave it deal and then the players submit a Chinese menu of a deal without discussing it is not a great way to negotiate. We all know this from our fantasy trades.To say that they are no where close with no semblance of nearing a deal is not good news for the fans.
The anger I saw from Bettman only made me think of him swinging at Fehr only to have Fehr holding his head out of arms reach.
14 Team Keeper League
Keep 15
Start 9F 5D 1G
G A PIM GWG W SO OTL
Starters
F: Pastrnak, Kaprizov, Lafrenniere, Pettersson, Raymond, Byfield, Rossi, Hayton, Arvidsson
D: Seider, Hanifin, Drysdale, Boqvist, Shultz
G: Demko
Bench:
F: Pelletier, Noesen
D: Lundkvist, Hutson, Nikishin, Addison, Spence, York, Zamula
G: Levi, Wolf
IR: Fantilli, Sergachev
Seems like some of these differences affect so few players right now that the masses that aren't in the bargaining section will start to step up. Could get ugly within the NHLPA soon.
Points-only, Full Keeper Dynasty League
Active roster (no starts, just total points): 12 FW, 6 D, 1 Goalie
Forwards: Kucherov, Barkov, Teravainen, Seguin, Hoffman, Lindholm, Gusev, Horvat, Meier, Perron, Schwartz, Johansen, Pavelski, Buchnevich, Hischier, Granlund, Bracco
Defense: Josi, Dahlin, Letang, Gostisbehere, Ekman-Larsson, Petry, Slavin, Keith, Matheson
Goal: Lehner, Holtby, Varlamov
Farm: Soderstrom, York, Woo, Tracey, Dorofeyev
To me, these are facts:
The owners have an inelastic product in their hands (hockey).
They are creating a scarce in order to obtain what they want.
The owners are currently saving operating costs.
Truncated season is benefical to all NHL franchise (the poor do not lose any money and the rich do not retribute what they've earned, while the poor and the rich are NOT losing their supply - the fans).
Shortened schedule will generate an enhanced buzz on its market.
The owners have done their homework and know precisely how many games (if any) needs to be played to limit the numbers of teams that would generate losses on a 82-game-long season.
It's all just a precalculated set-up on the owners part: on an 82-game schedule, they need X. Condense the 82-game and they now need X-. Shrink schedule to 60 and they're willing to accept X---. Shrink schedule to minimal schedule and X------ can now be accepted. Season cancel and league will accept anything from X- to X---.
The PA's a puppet to Bettman's plan...That's the way I see it.
Keeper league H2H weekly (12 teams, 22P, 12K)
9 Skater stats: P, G, +/-, PPG, PPP, GWG, Shots, Hits, BS -- 4 Goalie stats: W, SO, Save%, GAA%
C: Dubois, Hischier, Patrick
W: Rakell, Pastrnak, Ferland, Ho-Sang
D: Dumba, Klingberg, Rielly, Klefbom
G: Raanta, Grubauer
Bench: Hart, C. Anderson, Kinkaid, M. Smith, Werenski, Myers, Zadina, Ferland, Ho-Sang,
Don Fehr is and always was the problem. He's leading the naive cattle to their death.
Owners Express Disappoint
http://www.csnchicago.com/hockey-chi...3&feedID=10334
Blame Owners for impasse
http://mobile.masslive.com/advmassli...tguid=p8f3T64Q
League:Fantrax 18 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats:G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, S, SV%, W, GAA
C: Backstrom,Giroux,MacKinnon,Seguin
W: D.Brown,Hartnell,Hossa,P.Kane
Kesler,Marleau,Perron,Zibanejad
D: Boyle,Del Zotto,Doughty,D.Hamilton,Hedman,Markov
G: Rinne
Bench: Braun,Comeau, Demers,DeHaan,Polak,Stempniak,Wingels --Fleury
You can't push Bettman's Buttons forever. The players can't bite the hand that feeds you either.
I don't give a damn who's fault it really is, this has to stop. The game is already irreparably harmed. They're clearly doing their best to make sure it returns to a league of six as fast as they can. The game will not ever fully recover from another lost season in the states, period.
12 team Full Dynasty w cap. 13F, 7D, 2G, 5B.
G 4.25, A 2.75, PPP 1.5, SHP 3, Hits 0.4, Blocks 0.5, PIM 0.25, DFP 1
W 5 OTL 1 SO 6 SV 0.25 L-1 GS 1
F:Stamkos, C Stew, R Johansen, B Dubinsky, Max Pac, Umberger, B Ryan, D Backes, T Ruutu, Lucic, Ott, MSL, Heatley, C Kunitz, J Benn, L Adam
D: C Fowler, Kronwall, A Goligoski, JM Liles, M Giordano, K Letang, N Nikitin, R Josi
G: J Quick, A Niemi, C Anderson, Rinne
at least 2.5 more weeks of bullshit from both sides before it gets done .
hang in there.
Last night I dreamt the lockout ended.Originally Posted by butch
Of course, I also dreamt I was being stalked by a rabid unicorn all through lower Manhattan during a snowstorm.
@SmittysRant
A text from Ryan Miller to a local Buffalo reporter, Adam Benigni
"Too bad. The league will make it seem like nothing was accomplished, but we got closer to a deal. If they blow it up, I guess we have to find another way. We worked hard and moved in a fashion that would indicate that they could move and get a deal done. They just want surrender on all issues."
@SmittysRant
Great write up by Elliotte Friedman this morning after the gong show that expired last night.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...w-options.html
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
I feel like Mugatu...
Is the difference between 5% annual contract variance and 25% high year/low year variance REALLY that different that we need to blow things up? 5 year contracts vs 8? 10 year CBA vs 8? Are we all really so entrenched that neither side will allow the other's offer to be the one that "does it"?
I can't make sense of this shit anymore, what the hell is either side fighting for anymore?
They're all going about this the wrong way. Quibbling over a percent is silly and misses the bigger picture Both sides should be discussing ways to generate MORE revenue. 50% of ten billion would be far more appealing to all than 57% five billion. Their shortsighted focus on their respective self interests is having the opposite effect, ironically.
Pride goeth before the fall.
@SmittysRant
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