Traders Remorse - Getz for Cally -Do I take the Plan B pill?

[Hrudey Blue]

Gents - I had been working a deal with a fellow GM a few weeks prior to our draft night to secure Getzlaf, and when it was all said and done, I pulled the trigger on a deal that shipped my Callahan away for his Getzlaf during our draft night / party. I was on the rye bus when the deal went down, and since then have hemmed and hawed over this deal as I'm unsure if it was a good move, a wash, or a mistake.

Arguments for / against Getz: traditionally a multi cat stud with a proven track record; 1st line minutes and ample PP opportunities. Unfortunately, he struggled recently and had to deal with some issues (new baby, I think, and a broken face... ouch), Anaheim seems to be lacking the depth players to provide support 'a-la advanced statistics' (think Suter, J Stall), and is headed for a new system under Boudreau. Getz plays C, where there is a lot of talent.

Arguments for / against Cally: had an amazing year last year and I saw a nice progression in his numbers over the past few years. A 5-tool stud who MAY have over produced and peaked (that's why I was ok with dealing him). Unfortunately, he'll take a lot of pucks under Torts and could get hurt, and may be pushed down the depth chart with recent acquisitions and the emergence of some young guns (Haglin, Kreider). Cally is on the RW, a very scarce position right now.

I need a hockey season to play out in order to really gauge this one; without that, I'm at a loss and kind of see it as a wash.

How did I do on that deal? Silly, good, or ok? Any thoughts on my thinking and analysis?

Cheers, and thanks in advance!

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8 Team Keeper (Keep 12, max 2 goalies)
C: Stamkos, Tavares, Getzlaf, Shaw
L: Kovy, Neal, Patches, Ericksson, M Foligno
R: Wheeler, Simmonds, Voracek, Cole
D: Chara, Del Zotto, Boyle, Yandle, Campbell, Kulikov, Nikitin
G: Lundqvist, Quick, Smith, Hiller, Brodeur

League settings:
positions: C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6) =25 players.
Cats include: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)

[bondon]

I don't think you should regret this deal at all.

Let's say Callahan gets an added 10 fantasy points off of the peripherals (hits & blocks) because Getzlaf actually does quite well with these settings as well...Getzlaf could potentially make up that difference with PIM alone...assuming he gets somewhere between 80-100 PIM in a season which in my opinion isn't outrageous.

Goals don't get any more of a boost than assists, so aside from the random stats like SHG and GWG you go with the guy with the higher offensive upside which is easily Getzlaf..not even close.

Not to mention i'd argue you needed more help at the C position than at RW on your squad. Before this deal I assume Shaw was your third C? Now you have an elite three at C and you have four decent options at RW.

I don't see any reason to doubt this deal.

[blayze]

You made the right move, no regrets whatsoever... in fact you should be celebrating.

[NikW71]

I think you made the right choice even while on the "rye bus". Getzlaf should bounce back whenever they return to the ice.

[Bass56]

Worst case scenario, it's a wash... I like this deal for you

[JagrBomb]

i'd take baldy over cally any day of the week.

[Hrudey Blue]

I don't think you should regret this deal at all.

Let's say Callahan gets an added 10 fantasy points off of the peripherals (hits & blocks) because Getzlaf actually does quite well with these settings as well...Getzlaf could potentially make up that difference with PIM alone...assuming he gets somewhere between 80-100 PIM in a season which in my opinion isn't outrageous.

Goals don't get any more of a boost than assists, so aside from the random stats like SHG and GWG you go with the guy with the higher offensive upside which is easily Getzlaf..not even close.

Not to mention i'd argue you needed more help at the C position than at RW on your squad. Before this deal I assume Shaw was your third C? Now you have an elite three at C and you have four decent options at RW.

I don't see any reason to doubt this deal.

Yes, I did need help at C. In fact, I hadn't drafted a C yet, and it was relatively late in the draft. I'd stocked up at RW, and saw the opportunity to move one out (Cally) to acquire my 1st C of the draft (Getz). Shaw was drafted a little later to shower up my C's.

[ericdaoust]

Have some more rye. You did well.

[Rocky71]

Getzlaf be liking the Coin. That should be enough motivation to bring his numbers back into elite level.

[Buck Fush]

From the thread title I assumed you had traded your Getzlaf for Callahan haha.. this is a fleecing in my books and you should be very happy. Getz is a franchise player (top line/top pp) and Callahan is maybe the 4th best forward on his team.

[holdUP]

I don't think you should regret this deal at all.

I don't see any reason to doubt this deal.

My thoughts exactly. I went to check the peripherals as well.

To reiterate what bondon said:
Looking at last years numbers, you basically give up about 100 hits (10 fantasy points).

Seeing as how goals = assists, Callahan in a year you think he may have done VERY WELL, is a VERY LOW year for Getzlaf. Say Callahan stays at 55 pts next year, and Getzlaf bumps to 70 (easily), you're already winning by 5 pts.

The only other side that favours Callahan is SHG/A, and GWG. But GWG isn't very consistent, so to expect 9 from him is a lot. And then if you think he scores fewer goals, it reduces the GWG/SHG numbers even more.

You win

[Bishop67]

I also think you won this deal. And it's not close. Kudos Mr. Bruneau!

[kevinsrangers]

good deal. maybe a wash but id put money on getz.

[STONE.]

Being in a contract year, the biggest question mark is whether or not Getz plays in Anaheim going forward. If there's no season, he's one of the biggest FAs out there.

Regardless, he'll be a 1C wherever he goes methinks -- I think you'll be good to go. He could end up with better linemates.

Worse case scenario: Perry leaves as a FA, Selanne retires, and Getz is stuck lining up with youngsters that are a few years from maturity in a massive rebuild while Callahan takes off with Richards, Gabby and Nash in the Big Apple.

[Kofax]

I would have to say that the other fellow was probably a drink or two ahead of you in the rye department. Taking Getz to the bank.