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    I'm building right now and stock piling young guns. Our league uses peripheral stats and I enjoy stacking my team with guys who can hit and get PIMs and not just score. I'm thinking of making this trade offer.... Give Granlund & Kuznetsov, get Landeskog. I see Landeskog as a safer bet and he gets more perihperal stats. Kuznetsov is also a risk. This would also free up a keeper spot for me which may allow me to keep someone like Kesler (whom I'd pick up in another deal).

    Would you make this deal if you could?

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    Keeper League (Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies).
    C: Backes, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund, Kuznetsov
    L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
    R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Brouwer
    D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
    G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson

    League settings:
    positions: C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6) =25 players.
    Cats include: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)

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    Welcome to the boards!

    That would be a deal I'm definitely comfortable with making. I know Granlund has great upside but with the hits/blocks counting as .1, given last year's stats Landeskog would have had 26 points alone from those peripherals. Not to mention how this league fits his skill-set/play style very well.

    Helps you consolidate assets in a league where you can only keep 10 skaters.

    I like it if it's something you can swing.

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    Definitely Landeskog as an upgrade over Granlund since you'd probably not keep Kuz anyways.

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    this is a good trade in a limited keeper league. you should go for it.
    10 team Full Keeper Roto League
    4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.

    C= crosby,m.koivu,malkin,zajak,grabovski,b.richards
    LW= ovechkin,nash,dubinsky
    RW= downie,hemsky,callahan,voracek,perry,gagner,brouwe r
    D= green,doughty,phaneuf,wisniewski,girardi,karlsson, smid
    G= rask,lundqvist,ward,price

    FARM=kreider,grachev,enroth,kuznetsov,ennis,rundbl ad,bjugstad,radulov,montoya, adam,t.erixon,cowan,s.elliot,j.faulk,cormier,petro v,orlov,stone,eakin,grigorenko,silfverberg,brodin, atkinson,paajarvi,Nichushkin,mantha,jenner

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    Id do that deal as well. I like Kuz but who knows if he's going to come over. Im suspicious right now. Granlund is an injury risk. Grab Lando while you can. Next full season he could hit 70+.

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    Landeskog side by a landslide IMO.
    He's a multic-cat beast (270+ shots in his first season... Imagine what he could do next?)
    Keeper league 16 teams (H2H, keep 18-19 NHLers, 25 minors; Championships 2009-10, 2013-14)
    Scoring Cats: G-A-PTS-PPG-PPA-(+/-)-PIM-SHP-SOG-FW-GWG / W-L-SVS-SV%-GAA-SO

    C- Crosby, Spezza, Statsny, Ennis
    LW- MacKinnon, Landeskog, Nyquist, Boedker
    RW- Pavelski, Oshie, Niederreiter
    D- Yandle, Carlson, Maatta, B.Smith
    G- Price, Varlamov, Lehtonen, Greiss

    Potential drops: S.Koivu, Anisimov, (Kovalchuk)

    Minors:
    F: Forsberg, Phillips
    D: Rundblad, Pulock, Kichton, Sanguinetti
    G: Raanta, Berra, Zatkoff, Nihlstorp, Taylor

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    I'd absolutely prefer Landeskog in this scenario, no hesitation...and if you could actually pull that off, bravo to you, sir. The other GM is a...*ahem*...Not a very "bright" fantasy hockey GM(to say the least!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass56 View Post
    Landeskog side by a landslide IMO.
    He's a multic-cat beast (270+ shots in his first season... Imagine what he could do next?)
    Bingo!

    Great trade for you.
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    Take the performing NHL multi cat beast every time. Down the road it might be different, but right now, that's a solid deal.
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    If you can swing it, then absolutely. I've tried to acquire Landeskog in a league that counts peripheries as well, and the counters I was receiving were involved big, established names going the other way. Every league is different, but my gut tells me that you'll need to up your offer to land him. At the very least, it's a good place to start.
    16 team, full keeper
    19 roster players, 15 prospects
    Stats: G, A, PPG, SHG, special teams assists, SOG, FOW, PIM, hits, BS, +/-, W, SO, saves, s%, GAA, SO saves

    C: Crosby, Malkin, Killorn
    W: P. Kane, Jagr, Ott, Burrows, Purcell, Tlusty, Clutterbuck, Zuccarello
    D: Karlsson, Giordano, Hamonic, Gunnarsson, Smid, Grossmann
    G: Price, Smith, Greiss

    Farm: Enstrom, St. Louis
    IR: H. Sedin

    Prospects: Cizikas, Gaudreau, Sheahan, Bärtschi, Atkinson, Teravainen, Jensen, Ceci, Koekkoek, Emelin, Rundblad, Grubauer, Kuemper

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    You can offer it as it would be huge win for you but I don't see the other manager accepting the deal. Good luck.
    13 Team, keep 5 league (1 G max), daily line ups, roto league
    2011 - 1st, 2010 - 6th, 2009 - 3rd
    G, A, +/-, PPG, SHP, SOG, Hits, Blk, W, GAA, SV, S%, SO
    2 C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4 D, 1 Util, 1 G, 4 BN
    C: Kuznetsov, M Richards, Nielson
    RW: Vanek, Byfuglien*, Brown
    LW: Pacioretty, Elias, Landeskog, Dubinsky
    D: Weber, Markov, Gudas, Girardi, Hjalmarsson
    G: Rinne, Brodeur
    *not keeper eligible - top 2 round pick

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    I'm in favour of this trade, obviously, as I'm the one offering it. However, I'm a bit surprised that people think it's so lopsided. Maybe I didn't give enough info? Both me (Granlund & Kuznetsov owner) and the other guy (Landeskog owner) are rebuilding and should be competitive in 2 years. So I'm thinking solely about future performance. Landsekog has more peripherals but I don't expect he will score at the pace of either Grandlund or Kuzentsov. There are KHL & injury risks, I agree. Is this offer really that unfair?

    Stat Categories: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)
    C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6)

    (Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies)
    C: Backes, Kuznetsov, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund
    L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
    R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Coyle
    D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
    G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson

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    Landeskog all the way for me Zorn - As many have mentioned:
    1- Kuz in Russia is a concern
    2- Granlund could be a band-aid boy
    3- Landeskog is the proven performer, the others are not.
    4- Landeskog is a multi-cat stud, the others are not.

    Also worth considering:
    Yahoo will peg Grandlund as a C, but I don't know what they'll do with Kuz (I believe he plays RW, but who knows what they'll do). If they also peg him as a C then you have two unproven players at a position where there is an abundance of producing players under this format. Landeskog suits this league nicely in the LW slot.

    If you were to keep Granlund and Kuz as two keepers, who would you drop from your original list? If you figure that you'd drop one of the two, then I'd view the deal as either Grandlund OR Kuz for Landeskog. If so, it strengthens the argument to go with Landeskog.

    BY the way... this post made me chuckle as I know the GM:

    "The other GM is a...*ahem*...Not a very "bright" fantasy hockey GM(to say the least!) "

    Haha!

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    Thanks Bruneau. I was wondering if you'd put you're 2 cents in. A good analysis. I've been surprised more than once by this forum on how other people's opinions differ from mine. I thought I had an ok hockey mind. Maybe not.

    Stat Categories: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)
    C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6)

    (Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies)
    C: Backes, Kuznetsov, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund
    L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
    R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Coyle
    D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
    G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson

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    Great trade for you.
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