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    Hey guys,

    Back in September, I was approached by the Ovechkin owner about a trade.

    Because of the lockout, we never went any further than Ovechkin for Seguin +, without getting into what the + could be.

    I'm bored and want to revive our talks. I suspect he'd want the throw-in to be substantial and was thinking of offering Strome.

    I'm still not completely sold on Strome and figure with him leading the OHL this is as good a time as any to trade him.

    This is for league in sig, so points-only.
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    F= Getzlaf, Toews, Spezza, Tavares, Seguin, Nash, Weiss, Wheeler, Callahan, Wilson, Little, Michalek, Boedker, Strome, Lindholm, Monahan.
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    G= Lundqvist, Bobrovsky, Pavelec.

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    I'd be surprised if that's all it took, but worth a shot. I'd definitely be looking for more than Strome if it was me.
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    I'd be surprised if the OV owner was THAT sold on Strome to accept this. Much more likely he'll just roll his eyes and ignore your message. I think he's more likely to e.g. ask for Seguin and Getz - that's more realistic IMO.
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    I think you will have to add a little more to make this trade happen. This is a good starting point though. I would offer this to begin with and wait for him to counter you.
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    It's a pretty fair deal... though I'd go with Ovechkin.

    In points-only, an 80pt Seguin really ain't that far off a 85/90pt Ovechkin (who I see more as an 85pt player).

    I really don't think Strome has much value in a 12-team, 11F pool until probably 2015.
    If it was Seguin + Eriksson (or something, then I like it).

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    Not a bad deal at all, I'm a huge fan of Seguin.

    Strome just doesn't do it for me, I'd want a better prospect if I was trading away Ovechkin.
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    I'd need more than that to move Ovechkin.
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    A lot are saying it's not enough for Ovechkin but not everyone has the balls to put up with his down years. I think this offer is a solid starting point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    A lot are saying it's not enough for Ovechkin but not everyone has the balls to put up with his down years. I think this offer is a solid starting point.
    Agreed.

    Seguin is, to steal from Zoolander, so hot right now.

    20 goals in 20 games in teh Swiss League. I know it ain't the NHL, but that's still impressive.

    And if I had a choice in a points-only keeper, it would be a tough call b/c I was just telling a buddy I think Seguin will be the next guy to randomly hit 90pts. They guy that, 55 games into the season, you're going "shit, he's gonna hit 90".

    I know Ovechkin has been there, but Seguin is pretty durned good.

    Adding Strome may or may not get it done but this, to me, is a really good starting point.

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    strome is not enough to add to get OV unless the OV manager is realy soured on his sub-par season. this may be the case so send an offer out and see what happens.its not too low of an offer to be considered an insult. imo.
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    Worst case, it gets declined. But I would do it if I had the opportunity to get OV.
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    Thanks for all the responses.

    Ok, at least it's pretty clear nobody thinks it'd be a bad deal for me.

    Not sure why I'm having such a hard time pressing "send" on this one.

    I am a big fan of Seguin's and enjoy seeing him play. Plus, though Ovechkin's certainly not old, I'm not loving that 7 year gap between the two players.

    If I do send out the offer, I'll post back with his response.
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    F= Getzlaf, Toews, Spezza, Tavares, Seguin, Nash, Weiss, Wheeler, Callahan, Wilson, Little, Michalek, Boedker, Strome, Lindholm, Monahan.
    D= Karlsson, Yandle, Goligoski, Fowler.
    G= Lundqvist, Bobrovsky, Pavelec.

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    Well, let me be more direct then.

    If I had Seguin in a points-only, I wouldn't trade him for OV....at least not without some very serious thinking.

    And that 6,7 year gap (whatever it is) is a factor, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reuben View Post
    Well, let me be more direct then.

    If I had Seguin in a points-only, I wouldn't trade him for OV....at least not without some very serious thinking.

    And that 6,7 year gap (whatever it is) is a factor, for sure.
    I would swap my Seguin for Ovechkin every single day of the week
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    Since we are looking forward here, let's consider the upside and downside of both:

    Seguin: downside 67, upside 100?
    Ovechkin: downside 65, upside 112 (something he has already done)

    Ovechkin is 27 but that doesn't mean he doesn't have the same probability of hitting his sky-high potential as Seguin. I kind of like the idea of banking on someone who has been there before.
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