I think that's what FHG was arguing... That we're mixing up "player valuations" with "team value"... What he's saying is that these rankings are based on player value given a and even across the board ranking. So there's no bias to certain stats over others. When you take into account having a "bias" in certain stats then of course these rankings won't work for you. Cause you're placing an emphasis on certain stats over others, whereas FHG's rankings are based on "across the board" contributions.
Originally Posted by horrorfan
Horror I think you're just expecting too much from these numbers, at the end of the day everyone's always going to have their opinions, so these numbers should basically be used as guidance to help you justify or criticize your own beliefs. I don't think anyone should be using them as gospel. "Maybe the number is not as necessary in general (regardless of conditions), rather just list players using a set of categories based on strength/value and let us determine who we consider valuable." I think that's exactly what FHG actually does. It paints a picture, but ultimately you're the one that needs to consider the value. The ranking changes if you add in owner bias.
One thing that I find interesting is there is starting to become an overemphasis on owners trying to seek "across the board" players or are overpaying in order to land them.
I could see how Roto leagues would want "across the board" production as you want "high" highs, but you don't want "low" lows... You kinda want an above average team in every category. I haven't seen very many Roto winners who have tanked 2-3 categories.
But I'm starting to see a lot of H2H teams trying to go "across the board" which is interesting to me, cause at the end of the day you only need to 50/50 plus win the tie breaker and you essentially win the week...
FHG has a strong emphasis on "across the board" production, but that's not what vitally important for H2H...
Let's say you grab Perry, Lucic and Backes (who are 3 of the "big name" across the board producers out there) you'd end up with a stat-line of:
87 G, 88 A, +15, 363 PIM, 51 PPP and 660 SOG.
Now if I grabbed 3 "soft" guys in Daniel, Henrik and Thornton, I'd have a stat-line of:
62 G, 163 A, +54, 54 PIM , 75 PPP and 498 SOG.
I'd essentially 50/50 those stats if I had a trio of "across the board" players in Perry, Lucic and Backes compared to Sedin, Sedin and Thornton, so there's little to no advantage in grabbing "across the board" players compared to focusing on straight offensive players in H2H. I could certainly see it useful for Roto leagues, but H2H I don't see it...
Of course this is all based on default settings, if you added in hits and BS it could definitely add more value to the more physical "across the board" types, but in standard leagues over-reaching for those types of players does nothing...
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