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    EDIT Jan 17: I'm just continuing this thread (rather than starting a new one). Just looking for specific advice below (post 12) rather than overall. Thanks.




    I had a previous thread where I was asking about sleepers for this league which counts PIM, hits and blocked shots:

    http://forums.dobbersports.com/showthread.php?t=138934

    We've just autodrafted and below is my squad. Unfortunately many teams didn't pre-rank much (or at all) which is a shame especially since they've had plenty of time to do so. There are a few solid teams, but I feel I'm in a great position.

    One-year points, 12 teams
    PIM=2, Hits=1, Blocked shots=1
    Daily lineups, Roster: 12F,6D,5BN
    Full season maximum games (pro-rata)

    F: Dorsett, Lapierre, Prust, Backes, Callahan, Getzlaf, Z.Smith, Rupp, Powe, Crombeen, Dubinsky, Shaw, Garbutt, Talbot, Moen
    D: Girardi, Giordano, Seabrook, Robidas, S.Weber, McQuaid, Seidenberg, Polak
    Last edited by horrorfan; January 17, 2013 at 7:57 AM. Reason: updated roster Jan 17

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    Fantabulous!!

    For an autodraft... to land absolute studs in this league format (goon/grit)... nice.

    There's still Ott, Martin, Rinaldo, Letang, Neil, Subban, Simmonds, Carkner, Konopka, Lucic, Hartnell, Clutterbuck... unless they are all on one other team, you win!
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    G,A,+/-, PIM, PPG, SHG, GWG, OTG, FOWs, Hits, Blks, Maj, Mis, (bonus scoring for D-men makes them comparable to Wing)
    Wins, Saves, GA, Shutouts

    18 Man Roster (3 IR slots) Daily Start: 2C, 4W, 4D, 2G

    C: Zibanejad, Thomas, Tavares
    W: Stutzle, Robertson, Connor, Buchnevich, McCann
    D: Makar, McAvoy, Josi, Theodore, Matheson, Harley
    G: Georgiev, Binnington, Kochetkov, Andersen (IR)

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    That's a nice looking team. Should be one of the best teams in the league.

    Only player I don't like on your team is Jody Shelley. I can't see him getting regular minutes with the Flyers - if he even gets to play at all. I would look someone to replace him.
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    23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
    27 Man Minor Team

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    Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
    LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
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    Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
    D-
    JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
    G- Lehtonen, Rämö

    F: Lehterä, Wennberg,
    McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
    D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhonny View Post
    Fantabulous!!

    For an autodraft... to land absolute studs in this league format (goon/grit)... nice.

    There's still Ott, Martin, Rinaldo, Letang, Neil, Subban, Simmonds, Carkner, Konopka, Lucic, Hartnell, Clutterbuck... unless they are all on one other team, you win!
    Thanks. Given that half the league didn't pre-rank my team is probably stronger than it would have been. The other on-the-ball teams have pretty good squads as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    That's a nice looking team. Should be one of the best teams in the league.

    Only player I don't like on your team is Jody Shelley. I can't see him getting regular minutes with the Flyers - if he even gets to play at all. I would look someone to replace him.
    Thanks. Someone dropped Dubinsky - not sure why - so I'm going to put in a claim for him. Perhaps last year won't be repeated (100+ PIM, 200+ hits) but he still could be solid. Not sure how much the change in scenery will make a difference. Though with #9 waiver priority, depending on which teams are active now, we'll see if I get him.

    However, Travis Moen is a FA, and with a healthy season could be a good option as well if I don't get Dubinsky. What do you think? Two seasons ago Dubinsky and Moen had similar fantasy points:

    11/12 (PIM,Hits,Blk):
    Dubinsky - 110, 207, 36 = 463 fpts
    Moen (full season) - approx 75, 140, 70 = 360 fpts

    10/11 (PIM,Hits,Blk):
    Dubinsky - 100, 141, 31 = 372 fpoints (on waivers)
    Moen - 96, 129, 42 = 363 fpoints (FA)

    Though I wonder if I should drop Slater for Moen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    I had a previous thread where I was asking about sleepers for this league which counts PIM, hits and blocked shots:

    http://forums.dobbersports.com/showthread.php?t=138934

    We've just autodrafted and below is my squad. Unfortunately many teams didn't pre-rank much (or at all) which is a shame especially since they've had plenty of time to do so. There are a few solid teams, but I feel I'm in a great position.

    One-year points, 12 teams
    PIM=2, Hits=1, Blocked shots=1
    Daily lineups, Roster: 12F,6D,5BN
    Full season maximum games (pro-rata)

    F: Dorsett, Lapierre, Prust, Backes, Callahan, Getzlaf, Z.Smith, Ruutu, Rupp, Crombeen, Garbutt, Powe, Shelley, Talbot, Slater
    D: Girardi, Giordano, Seabrook, Robidas, S.Weber, Peckham, Seidenberg, Polak

    Thoughts?
    I have always wanted to play in a league like this - let me know how it goes. Sounds like a lot of fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Thanks. Someone dropped Dubinsky - not sure why - so I'm going to put in a claim for him. Perhaps last year won't be repeated (100+ PIM, 200+ hits) but he still could be solid. Not sure how much the change in scenery will make a difference. Though with #9 waiver priority, depending on which teams are active now, we'll see if I get him.

    However, Travis Moen is a FA, and with a healthy season could be a good option as well if I don't get Dubinsky. What do you think? Two seasons ago Dubinsky and Moen had similar fantasy points:

    11/12 (PIM,Hits,Blk):
    Dubinsky - 110, 207, 36 = 463 fpts
    Moen (full season) - approx 75, 140, 70 = 360 fpts

    10/11 (PIM,Hits,Blk):
    Dubinsky - 100, 141, 31 = 372 fpoints (on waivers)
    Moen - 96, 129, 42 = 363 fpoints (FA)

    Though I wonder if I should drop Slater for Moen?
    Dubinsky would be great addition to your team.

    Moen could be solid too. I'd take him over Shelley and probably over Slater too.
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    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
    23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
    27 Man Minor Team

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    Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
    LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
    RW-
    Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
    D-
    JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
    G- Lehtonen, Rämö

    F: Lehterä, Wennberg,
    McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
    D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
    G: Berra, Talbot, Brossoit, Ullmark, Lieuwen, Rynnäs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Dubinsky would be great addition to your team.

    Moen could be solid too. I'd take him over Shelley and probably over Slater too.
    Thanks, appreciate it.

    Decided to add Moen and drop Shelley - at least it ensures an upgrade there. I've changed the waiver claim for Dubinsky to drop Slater. Not expecting to get him, but here's hoping.
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    The claim went through and I got Dubinsky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    The claim went through and I got Dubinsky.
    Congrats. Dubinsky could be golden in that setup (200 hits, 100 PIM and some blocked shots). There aren't too many guys capable of that.
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    G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
    , Hits, Blks, FOW
    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
    23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
    27 Man Minor Team

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    Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
    LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
    RW-
    Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
    D-
    JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
    G- Lehtonen, Rämö

    F: Lehterä, Wennberg,
    McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
    D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
    G: Berra, Talbot, Brossoit, Ullmark, Lieuwen, Rynnäs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    Congrats. Dubinsky could be golden in that setup (200 hits, 100 PIM and some blocked shots). There aren't too many guys capable of that.
    Agreed - glad I managed to get him. Shame it's essentially a six team league - not only those who pre-ranked but who have made moves so far. The other six seemed to have given up or forgotten. Oh well - a six team battle it will be!

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    Since Peckham reaggravated an injury, I dropped him for McQuaid, who's just returning from injury. At the moment my question is primarily looking at who to start without relying on my bench (max games), so please keep that in mind. I'm wondering who you suggest should be my starting six defensemen? I have eight in total, and suspect you could argue a case for all of them.

    Point values: PIM=2, Hits=1, Blocked shots=1

    Here are my eight, in current order of starters/bench (bottom two on bench for now). Points are last season's averages per game (considering missed games):

    Girardi 5.3
    Giordano 5.9
    Seabrook 5.2
    Robidas 5.2
    S.Weber 5.3
    McQuaid 5.6
    Seidenberg 4.8
    Polak 5.4

    Which six do you like to start the season? Or if you prefer, which two would you keep on the bench for now?
    Last edited by horrorfan; January 17, 2013 at 7:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    Point values: PIM=2, Hits=1, Blocked shots=1

    Here are my eight, in current order of starters/bench (bottom two on bench for now). Points are last season's averages per game (considering missed games):

    Girardi 5.3
    Giordano 5.9
    Seabrook 5.2
    Robidas 5.2
    S.Weber 5.3
    McQuaid 5.6
    Seidenberg 4.8
    Polak 5.4

    Which six do you like to start the season? Or if you prefer, which two would you keep on the bench for now?
    My top-6 would be: Girardi, Giordano, Seabrook, Robidas, Weber and Seidenberg. Go with your best players.
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    W, GAA, SV, SV%, SO
    23 Man Roster - 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 3F, 6D, 1G, 4BN, 4IR
    27 Man Minor Team

    C-
    Tavares, Stepan, Granlund, Bjugstad, Couturier
    LW- Ryan, Perron, Ennis, Killorn, Spaling
    RW-
    Wheeler, Simmonds, Coyle, Wingels, Shaw
    D-
    JJ, Schultz, Cowen, Muzzin, Bortuzzo, Stanton
    G- Lehtonen, Rämö

    F: Lehterä, Wennberg,
    McNeill, de la Rose, Fast, Leivo, Arnold, Archibald, Lindström
    D: Gelinas, Beaulieu, Koekkoek, McCabe, Johns, Gryba
    G: Berra, Talbot, Brossoit, Ullmark, Lieuwen, Rynnäs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    My top-6 would be: Girardi, Giordano, Seabrook, Robidas, Weber and Seidenberg. Go with your best players.
    Agree... McQuaid's value is mainly through PIM.
    With the collarbone blood clots, I'd think he'll hold off on fighting for a bit... which is too bad considering BOS has two games against the fighting Rangers (Bickel, Haley) in the coming week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    My top-6 would be: Girardi, Giordano, Seabrook, Robidas, Weber and Seidenberg. Go with your best players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Agree... McQuaid's value is mainly through PIM.
    With the collarbone blood clots, I'd think he'll hold off on fighting for a bit... which is too bad considering BOS has two games against the fighting Rangers (Bickel, Haley) in the coming week.
    Thanks guys. Yeah I've been thinking about how McQuaid would start the season so it's probably best to keep him on my bench for now. Polak was great last season and had a higher fpt per game average than Seidenberg, but looking back he's a bit more unpredictable. Those were really the only ones I was debating about so happy with your suggestions.

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