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    Who are the top 10 keeper goalies in terms of value over the next 3 years?

    W, GAA, SV%, SO

    Top 10:
    1. Henrik Lundqvist
    2. Jonathan Quick
    3. Pekka Rinne
    4. Carey Price
    5. Marc-Andre Fleury
    6. Jaroslav Halak
    7. Tukka Rask (I'm assuming Tim Thomas retires/takes a year off)
    8. Mike Smith
    9. Cory Schneider (I'm assuming Luongo is traded)
    10. Roberto Luongo
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    11. Ryan Miller
    12. Jimmy Howard
    13. Jonas Hiller
    14. Cam Ward
    15. Anti Niemi
    16. Ilya Bryzgalov
    17. Mikka Kiprusoff
    18. Kari Lehtonen
    19. Andrej Pavelec
    20. Nicklas Backstrom

    Who are your top 10?
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    Top 10:
    1. Henrik Lundqvist
    2. Jonathan Quick
    3. Pekka Rinne
    4. Tukka Rask (I'm assuming Tim Thomas retires/takes a year off too)
    5. Marc-Andre Fleury
    6. Cory Schneider (I'm assuming Luongo is traded too)
    7. Carey Price
    8. Mike Smith
    9. Jaroslav Halak
    10. Roberto Luongo
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    11. Andrej Pavelec
    12. Jimmy Howard
    13. Ryan Miller
    14. Cam Ward
    15. Jonas Hiller
    16. Ilya Bryzgalov
    17. Mikka Kiprusoff
    18. Kari Lehtonen
    19. Anti Niemi
    20. Nicklas Backstrom
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    (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SOG, GWG, W, GAA, SV%)
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    LW: Galchenyuk, Parenteau, Landeskog.
    RW: Wheeler, Simmonds
    D: Subban, Schultz.
    G: Price, Dubnyk, Pavelec.

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    1) Henrik Lundqvist
    2) Pekka Rinne
    3) Jonathan Quick
    4) Ryan Miller
    5) Carey Price
    6) Cam Ward
    7) Tuukka Rask
    8) MA Fleury
    9) Ilya Bryzgalov
    10) Roberto Luongo
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    Top 10:
    1. Henrik Lundqvist
    2. Jonathan Quick
    3. Pekka Rinne
    4. Carey Price
    4. Tuukka Rask
    6. Marc-Andre Fleury
    7. Mike Smith
    8. Cory Schneider (assuming Luongo is traded)
    9. Ryan Miller
    10. Roberto Luongo (assuming Tampa or Toronto)
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    11. Jaroslav Halak
    12. Kari Lehtonen
    13. Jonas Hiller
    14. Jimmy Howard
    15. Ilya Bryzgalov
    16. Cam Ward
    17. Anti Niemi
    18. Mikka Kiprusoff
    19. Andrej Pavelec
    20. Nicklas Backstrom
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    F: E. Staal, T. Hall, J. Benn, J. Neal, J. Voracek, D. Stepan
    D: O. Ekman-Larsson, C. Fowler, TBD, TBD
    G: B. Bishop, S. Bobrovsky

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    F: S. Crosby, R. Getzlaf, J. Benn, J. Pavelski, J. Toews, M. Duchene, J. Neal, A. Kopitar, J. Thornton, D. Backes, L. Eriksson, M. Moulson
    D: PK Subban, D. Byfuglien, R. McDonagh, Z. Chara, D. Boyle, M. Carle
    G: M.A. Fleury, J. Quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned View Post
    1) Henrik Lundqvist
    2) Pekka Rinne
    3) Jonathan Quick
    4) Ryan Miller
    5) Carey Price
    6) Cam Ward
    7) Tuukka Rask
    8) MA Fleury
    9) Ilya Bryzgalov
    10) Roberto Luongo
    This is the list I would go with.
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    1. Lundqvist
    2. Quick
    3. Rinne
    4. Price
    5. Fleury
    6. Schneider
    7. Rask
    8. Luongo
    9. Miller
    10. Bryzgalov

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    G: R Luongo, B Holtby, K Lehtonen
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    Henrik Lundqvist 165 2.15 .922 30 (very strong team)
    Ilya Bryzgalov 153 2.35 .920 24 (settles in)
    Tukka Rask (no Thomas) 152 2.18 .920 21
    Jonathan Quick 148 2.25 .918 28 (must now show they can do it in Reg Season. Bernier strengthens)
    Marc-Andre Fleury 143 2.35 .915 14 (Vokoun factor)
    Anti Niemi 142 2.45 .916 15 (his job to lose. SJ stable or declining?)
    Roberto Luongo (Vancouver) 141 2.35 .921 18
    Cory Schneider (no Luongo) 140 2.45 .917 15
    Jimmy Howard 139 2.27 .917 18 (no backup)
    Pekka Rinne 138 2.48 .920 25 (rebuilding?, no backup)
    Carey Price 138 2.42 .919 20 (Montreal isn't powerful)
    Ryan Miller 137 2.50 .917 21 (average team)
    Corey Crawford 136 2.60 .912 (how long does he hold the job? finally settles in?)
    Kari Lehtonen 135 2.38 .921 20 (health could hurt numbers)
    Michal Neuvirth 135 2.48 .915 15 (I think heir apparent)
    Roberto Luongo (average team) 135 2.50 .920 16
    Jonas Hiller 132 2.52 .917 12
    Cam Ward 130 2.65 .916 15
    Mikka Kiprusoff 126 2.40 .918 16 (Calgary falling?) (end is arriving)
    Andrej Pavelec 125 2.75 .913 (Winnipeg rising or stable?)
    Simeon Varlamov 124 2.63 .915 (must be relatively healthy)
    Mike Smith 124 2.45 .915 15 (? strength of Phoenix) (can he maintain?)
    Craig Anderson 122 2.77 .914 12 (Ottawa rising? stable? falling? good AHL tenders))
    Martin Brodeur 120 2.45 .917 14 (divide by the number of seasons he plays)
    Nicklas Backstrom 112 2.48 .917 14 (Minny rising?)
    Jaroslav Halak 102 2.40 .916 18 (must become a #1)
    Tuuka Rask (with Thomas) 90 2.20 .922 11
    Brian Elliott 82 2.30 .918 16
    Cory Schneider (with Luongo) 42 2.15 .920 8

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    Islanders 152 2.40 .915 16 (team rising, but with what tender?)
    Edmonton 160 2.50 .915 12 (?Holtby or bring someone in?)
    Columbus 125 2.85 .910 10 (what a mess)
    Toronto 140 2.65 .914 11 (should start stabilizing)
    Tampa 160 2.60 .911 10 (could be a surprise here)
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    Also, anyone who doesn't have Miller in their top 10 is crazy.

    The guy hasn't posted a SV% south of .916 or a GAA north of 2.59 since the 07-08 season (averaging a SV% of .920, a GAA of 2.47, and 35 wins per season during that span).

    I'm too lazy to look up every goalie in the league, but I'd be willing to make a blind wager that that puts him at least top 3 over the past 4 years and wouldn't be surprised if he was closer to #1 in that span.

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    1. Lundqvist
    ...
    ...
    2. R.Miller
    3. Bryz
    4. Rinne
    5. Quick
    ...
    6. Rask
    7. Fleury
    8. Price

    Howard/Luongo/Schneider probably fill out this group.
    If the Wings get R.Suter, Howie is in my top 10.
    The Vancouver goalie is also in my top 10.

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    1) Henrik Lundqvist
    2) Pekka Rinne
    3) Jonathan Quick
    4) Ryan Miller
    5) Carey Price
    6) Corey Schnieder
    7) Cam Ward
    8) Tuukka Rask
    9) MA Fleury
    10) Roberto Luongo

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    1.) Lundqvist
    2.) Quick
    3.) Rinne
    4.) Price
    5.) Rask
    6.) Fleury
    7.) Miller
    8.) Ward
    9.) Bryzgalov
    10.) Hiller/Schneider
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    1. Lundqvist
    ...
    ...
    2. R.Miller
    3. Bryz
    4. Rinne
    5. Quick
    ...
    6. Rask
    7. Fleury
    8. Price

    Howard/Luongo/Schneider probably fill out this group.
    If the Wings get R.Suter, Howie is in my top 10.
    The Vancouver goalie is also in my top 10.
    really? Bryz at #3. Wow. You must have a lot of confidence in him bouncing back from a horrible season.
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    F: E. Staal, T. Hall, J. Benn, J. Neal, J. Voracek, D. Stepan
    D: O. Ekman-Larsson, C. Fowler, TBD, TBD
    G: B. Bishop, S. Bobrovsky

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    F: S. Crosby, R. Getzlaf, J. Benn, J. Pavelski, J. Toews, M. Duchene, J. Neal, A. Kopitar, J. Thornton, D. Backes, L. Eriksson, M. Moulson
    D: PK Subban, D. Byfuglien, R. McDonagh, Z. Chara, D. Boyle, M. Carle
    G: M.A. Fleury, J. Quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyzfunctioned View Post
    Also, anyone who doesn't have Miller in their top 10 is crazy.

    The guy hasn't posted a SV% south of .916 or a GAA north of 2.59 since the 07-08 season (averaging a SV% of .920, a GAA of 2.47, and 35 wins per season during that span).

    I'm too lazy to look up every goalie in the league, but I'd be willing to make a blind wager that that puts him at least top 3 over the past 4 years and wouldn't be surprised if he was closer to #1 in that span.
    I'm bored, so decided to follow this up a bit, looking at a few other goalies averages over past 4 years:

    Lundqvist: .923 SV%, 2.27 GAA, 37W
    Rinne: .920 SV%, 2.36 GAA, 34W
    Fleury: .912 SV%, 2.50 GAA, 38W
    Miller: .920 SV%, 2.47 GAA, 35W
    Price: .914 SV%, 2.60 GAA, 25W
    Ward: .918 SV%, 2.61 GAA, 31W
    Luongo: .920 SV%, 2.36 GAA, 36W
    Hiller: .918 SV%, 2.56 GAA, 27W
    Kiprusoff: .913SV%, 2.53 GAA, 38W

    Obviously this doesn't predict the future and is only really valid for guys that have a 4 year track record (Halak, Howard, Niemi, etc. were excluded and you could make a case for excluding Price) but it does show that 1) Lundy is the clear cut number one, and 2) that Miller, Luongo, and Rinne are pretty much neck and neck for the #2 spot.

    Luongo has the best stats of the 3 over the past 4 years, but given his uncertain role next year, it's pretty easy to recommend the other two over him.

    Long story short, the only goalies I would lay money down on for being amongst the tops the next 1-2 years would be Rinne, Lundy, and Miller as all have guaranteed starters jobs, all have averaged a SV% of at least .920, a GAA under 2.50, and around 35 wins over the past several years.

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    1. Quick
    2. Lundqvist
    3. Rinne
    4. Halak
    5. Fleury
    6. Ward
    7. Price
    8. Miller
    9. Rask
    10. Lehtonen

    I can't bring myself to put Luongo, Schneider, Kipper, Hiller, Niemi or Bryzgalov in my top ten.
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