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    Here's an awesome post summarizing what the Avs need to do more of offensively from user Dario over at Mile High Hockey

    So, lesson learned from the game? I’d say if they broke down the film, the very first question to ask themselves is why did they score twice with literally no time left?

    In the first case Tanguay tossed a "desperation" shot at the goal that ended up leading to a wide open net for Iginla to score.

    Tanguay chooses to shoot here because of time on the clock and only because of time on the clock. In this situation the Avalanche typically prefer to pass it behind the net or Tangs would reverse it up the wall looking for his point man. But, the clock… the clock forces his hand.



    The clock also forces Duchene to do something he doesn’t typically do, drive through the front of the net. With more time, Duchene will usually use the net as a screen and go around the back of the net to wait for a pass. But, that damned clock… makes him do something desperate and correct. By driving through the lane he gets Chara to chase instead of hitting the breaks at the crease if he had gone back door around the net.



    Duchene doesn’t screen the goalie here, he tips the puck and it bounces off Rask in to the weakside. Lesson here is that speed can drive the net. You don’t need to be a grinder to drive the net. Chara with all his toughness and reach can’t play this much better than he does but it’s Duchene’s drive through the crease that makes Chara chase, turning his back to the weak side. Second man in (what a lot of centers do with how breakouts work) driving the net is fundamental 101 hockey.

    D in the corner on the puck, D chases cutter through the slot and that leaves gravy weak side. The centerman is now responsible for covering the weakside and if this play is on the rush it’s going to take a really good center to pivot backwards, watch his blindside and defend any rebound. In this case, the weakside cover is oblivious but even if he wasn’t it’s a 50/50 puck that’s a quality scoring chance.



    All of this, ALL OF IT is because the time on the clock forced the Avs to play fundamental hockey. Not fancy hockey, fundamental hockey. The speed and skill naturally display themselves. You don’t have to play as a skilled team, you play as a fundamentally strong team and the rest takes care of itself.

    On to goal number two… more Clockwork Burgundy.



    So, yes the Avs have pulled the goalie for the extra attacker. But let’s be clear, that’s got nothing to do with this play. Here it’s 3v3 down low. Mitchell has no shot. None. He’s got traffic in front of him and no net to shoot at. But he does have two players in the crease.

    If this situation had time on the clock the Avs would not have two guys right on top of the crease. In fact, they would have zero players on top of the crease where Mitchell has the puck. Instead they would float a guy behind the net for a pass or in the high slot. Not always bad hockey for a cycle game. But if you always do it, then it’s easy to defend. It’s also going to take a perfect pass and perfect conditions to get good scoring chances. Anyway, Mitchell throws it at the net from the goalline, not a high quality chance. But he’s got guys at the crease.

    Hey, there’s O’Rieilly sneaking in blindside to the wingers watching the play. Let’s pretend that 5v5 he’s the weakside defenseman. Note that Redmond and Holden aren’t in the picture, and they never get in the picture. This is almost 4v5 hockey in the Bruins favor. They may be staying home a bit because two guys are Waaaaay back at the blueline. You could say the centerman is a little high here for the Bruins as well and should be on Everberg.





    Shot, rebound, score….. and look at all this room for activities in the slot! By the way, Redmond and Holden still not in the picture and they never become part of the 6v5.

    TL : DR
    Avs had their hand forced by the clock to do things on the ice that they typically don’t do in the course of play. This change in play lead to goals. It’s in the Avalanche’s best interest to alter their play to drive the net and put pucks at the net. It’s cliché, but it works and it does take skill to make it work.
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    Friday’s line combinations:

    Blake Comeau—Matt Duchene—Jarome Iginla

    Gabriel Landeskog—Nathan MacKinnon—Alex Tanguay

    Mikko Rantanen—Carl Soderberg—Borna Rendulic

    Cody McLeod—John Mitchell / *Mikhail Grigorenko—Jack Skille


    Francois Beauchemin—Erik Johnson

    Nate Guenin—Tyson Barrie

    Nikita Zadorov—Nick Holden

    *Brad Stuart—*Brandon Gormley


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    i watched Saturday's game.

    L1 with Mack between Landeskog and Tanguay was great. they went PvP against the Seguin line, and I'm guessing the #fancystats will say they lost that possession battle (Eakin scored twice and Seguin/Benn were dangerious all game) but they still got their chances and ended up ahead in goals.

    L2 was pretty quiet. Iginla is starting off hot and was money on the PP. Comeau was replaced with Rantanen part-way through. IMO neither guy looked all that great.

    Didn't notice L3 much, though my feeling is Soderberg had a pretty solid game.

    L4 had a good L4 game. John Mitchell always impresses me.

    Quite liked what I saw from Zadorov on D. At least a few shifts he was on with Barrie which was fun.

    Varlamov was busy. Avs gonna be a roller-coaster again this year.

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    Anyone got news for Grigorenko? Was scratched for all games as of now....will he be included in the lineup soon?
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    D: Korchinski (0.925M), Byram (3.85M), Burns (5.28M).

    G: Kochetkov (2M), Shesterkin (5,670M).

    Bench: E. Karlsson (10M), Lucius (0.925M), Edvinsson (0.89M), Askarov (0.925M), Quinn (0.86M), Berggren (0.925M), Stankoven (0.81M), Knight (4.5M), Mitchkov (TBD), Athanasiou (4.25M), Samsonov (3.55M), Klingberg (4.15M).

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    is roy getting close to being fired? on another note i hope duchene has another good game to revive his season

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    Roy got fired and Bednar got hired and I'm sure the fantasy implications have been posted by the main writers on some front page articles, but this is huge. The simple philosophical change of going and getting the puck defensively and breaking out of the defensive zone as a unit using multiple shorter passes to than gain the neutral zone, as opposed to waiting for the puck to land on your sticker after surrendering 5 shots on goal and a minute of zone time only to than chip it up the boards and out is going to be AMAZING!!!!!

    As an Avs fan I'm so excited.... and also back from the dead!!! Sort of

    If anyone has any Avs questions fire away... also huge props to MacK for 2 goals last night with NA
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    Where does Patrick Wiercioch fit in on the Avs defense? Is he going to play regularly? Will he get any PP opportunities?

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    10-1 against the Habs...

    they are the worst...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHouly View Post
    10-1 against the Habs...

    they are the worst...
    Time for a coaching change.....or maybe this team just isn't as talented as it seems.

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    When Rene Bourque is on your second line, you know you are in for a long long season...
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    5-2 Calgary with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd.

    How long before something is done with that team?
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    I have no idea how Sakic is still GM.

    The blunders over the past 2 years are mounting. How you don't move Duchene (poor guy can't be playing at his best with a trade hanging over him for 2 years...), make a deal to protect Pickard, or land a top 4 defenseman in recent history is beyond me.

    So many things mismanaged. They've done okay drafting over the years but have been otherwise dismal in free agency, coach management, and asset management.

    My offseason wish list:
    - trade Duchene and/or Landeskog for 1 or 2 top-4 defensemen
    - sign a legit backup goalie (Nilsson, Condon, Johnson)
    - sign a middle 6 forward (Weal, Stafford, Hanzal, Bonino)
    - sign a middle pair defenseman (Alzner, Kulikov, Stone, Franson, Daley)
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    Where do we see Jost this year and beyond? 1st liner? 1st PP guy?

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    If I trusted the Avs coaching staff, I'd say Jost will play top six, sheltered minutes. 14-16 minutes per night. He probably splits #2C duties with a guy like Soderberg.

    Looking at their roster, I'm sure he get's some decent PP time as well. I'm super high on the kid - love his work ethic. Here's hoping the team turns around and gives him an environment to develop in.
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