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theslymonkey 02-26-2013 12:36 AM

Where does Nuge fit
 
League and team details are in my signature.

The owner of RNH is getting restless and has told me that he would like to move him. If I go after him, where would he rank within my forward keepers.

Giroux
Tavares
Backstrom
Kovalchuk
Getzlaf
Benn

I am currently in second place and should be in first soon. So I don't want to overpay and lose production by picking up a slumping player. But Nuge just has so much potential, plus there are Oiler fans that would overpay once he breaks out.

ocossette 02-26-2013 12:49 AM

Why would you go after a player that won't help you to win now?

IMO he would be dead last in your forward keepers, the others are more developped and therefore less risky than RNH.

Plus when (if) he does explode your team might not be in a position where you can win.

IMO you're taking an unnecessary risk that could make you lose this season (unless you get him at a huge bargain).

metaldude26 02-26-2013 12:57 AM

He wouldn't make the cut for me personally. There's an argument to be made that you would keep him ahead of Getzlaf or Benn but I wouldn't make it. I like proven over potential, especially when the upside either way is pretty much equal.

rataylor22 02-26-2013 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by metaldude26 (Post 1095577)
He wouldn't make the cut for me personally. There's an argument to be made that you would keep him ahead of Getzlaf or Benn but I wouldn't make it. I like proven over potential, especially when the upside either way is pretty much equal.

I disagree about the upside, RNHs is much higher, but it's an unnecessary risk

LakeSoup 02-26-2013 03:11 AM

When you play Keeper, you should be thinking over a 2-3 year period. Max.

I shouldn't even have to talk about why Giroux and Tavares are better than RNH.
Backstrom and Kovalchuk are 1st tier stars and will be putting better numbers over RNH for a while.
Benn is the franchise player for the Stars and does everything. Peripherals all hot.
Getzlaf is an olympic-level player.

Will RNH be better than any of these guys in 2-3 years? Probably not.

In 5 years? Maybe Backstrom.

Axeman33 02-26-2013 05:16 AM

Great thread and great timing. For the team in my sig, I have a guy interested in my Tavares and is throwing RNH+ at me for Tavares+ (when we trade the numbers coming and going have to be the same, 1 for 1, 2 for 2, etc), mainly because he knows I am an Oilers fan. I told him the + coming from him would have to be pretty damn solid and he would be getting back crap from me for my + to even come close to evening it out.

I am not trying to hijack your thread, just wanted to say thanks for putting this out there. I am going through a similar issue with my money league. Its times like this you have to use your head and not your heart so even for me as an Oilers fan, I won't over pay for him.

To answer your question I dont see him ahead of any of those guys today. I know what you are saying when you say "he has so much potential" but stay the course with your proven players. You're sitting pretty good.

metaldude26 02-26-2013 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by rataylor22 (Post 1095599)
I disagree about the upside, RNHs is much higher, but it's an unnecessary risk

Is it though? Getzlaf has already dropped a 90-point season and Benn has as much potential as anyone. I'm not putting down RNH's upside, I just think it's foolish to write off the upside of these two as well. I guess it's semantics though depending on what you define as "much higher".

rataylor22 02-26-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by metaldude26 (Post 1095670)
Is it though? Getzlaf has already dropped a 90-point season and Benn has as much potential as anyone. I'm not putting down RNH's upside, I just think it's foolish to write off the upside of these two as well. I guess it's semantics though depending on what you define as "much higher".

Well at this point I consider Getz's 90 an anomaly for a 75-point players and I think Benn will cap at 82 in 82 - PPG type of deal. So when RNH, especially with two of Hall/Eberle/Yakupov can put up 90-100 (which I think he can), I would consider that much higher.

metaldude26 02-26-2013 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rataylor22 (Post 1095743)
Well at this point I consider Getz's 90 an anomaly for a 75-point players and I think Benn will cap at 82 in 82 - PPG type of deal. So when RNH, especially with two of Hall/Eberle/Yakupov can put up 90-100 (which I think he can), I would consider that much higher.

Right but that's what upside is. You aren't supposed to hit upside every year.

dyzfunctioned 02-26-2013 11:09 AM

I'd take RNH over Getzlaf, but that's about it.


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