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Old_Smokie 01-18-2013 10:55 AM

Collusion?
 
Player A has priority 1 on the waiver wire
Player B wants a free agent who was just dropped and is on waivers.
Player A picks uses his 1st priority claim to pick said free agent up and trades to player B for a pick.


Is this collusion?


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ericdaoust 01-18-2013 10:57 AM

At first glance I say no because Team A owns that player and can either trade him or not.

noglovenolove 01-18-2013 11:02 AM

No, that's legit. Neither one of them is willingly hurting their team to help out another guy, they are each giving up and getting something that they want.

Axeman33 01-18-2013 11:02 AM

As long as the player traded justifies the pick in return, I cant see how it's collusion. Smart positional play by Team B maybe, but I wouldnt call that collusion.

ericdaoust 01-18-2013 11:03 AM

Team A loses its #1 waiver priority in exchange for that pick.

blayze 01-18-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Smokie (Post 1062606)
Player A has priority 1 on the waiver wire
Player B wants a free agent who was just dropped and is on waivers.
Player A picks uses his 1st priority claim to pick said free agent up and trades to player B for a pick.


Is this collusion?

No... it's called Player A being a smart GM, or Players A & B doing a trade.

A little quick to jump the gun there old smokie haha

LawMan 01-18-2013 11:08 AM

No collusion. If player A uses his first waiver wire pick to grab a player who he then flips for a better player it's pretty genuis and legit. Player A loses his waiver priority but is able to upgrade his team in doing so, player B gets the trade he wants as well. Both players presumably end up with a team they legitimately prefer. I can see the guy with #2 waiver priority being upset about it if he also wanted the guy off waivers but that doesn't make the shrewd dealing by player b collusion.

Axeman33 01-18-2013 11:10 AM

I wouldnt consider this collusion, especially if the pick given in return is justified when comparing it to a player who is on the waiver wire. If anything, i consider it a pretty smart play by Team B. He keeps his waiver position, gets a player he wants and only gives up a pick for it.

rangersfury 01-18-2013 11:11 AM

I have to assume that player B contacted player A to use his #1 priority to guarantee the player is picked up in exchange for the pick ahead of time. Sneaky, clever, but not collusion unless the pick-player transaction is clearly lopsided.

On the other hand if player A simply used his #1 priority knowing that particular player had value and could net him value in a trade that's simply smart managing, maximizing the value of your WW priority.

Seems like a pretty straightforward series of transactions.

Old_Smokie 01-18-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blayze (Post 1062629)
No... it's called Player A being a smart GM, or Players A & B doing a trade.

A little quick to jump the gun there old smokie haha

The funny thing is.... this hasn't even happened in my league I was trying to build up a good knowledge base for if this ever happens and GMs complain. Thank you very much for your responses!


Didn't jump the gun at all. ;)


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