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TheBigJankowski 12-11-2012 12:38 PM

Schultz for Phaneuf and picks!
 
I was offered this trade this morning.

My Schultz and a 8th round pick.

For his Phaneuf and a 3rd round pick.

Here is his roster, any thoughts on counter offers? Team in Sig. Thanks!

Matt Duchene, Derek Roy, Ryan Getzlaf, Joe Thornton, Curtis Glencross, Thomas Vanek, Rick Nash, Alex Ovechkin, Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek, Ales Hemsky,
Patric Hornqvist, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Cam Fowler, Dion Phaneuf, Ryan Ellis. Kiprusoff, Backstrom
Farm: Jonathan Huberdeau, Sean Couturier

Pengwin7 12-11-2012 12:48 PM

I'd totally take Phaneuf and the 3rd.

Worst case, Schultz turns out to be a 50-55pt scorer.
We already know Phaneuf is a steady 40pt guy... so maybe (MAYBE!) you lose 15pts on this deal... absolute worst case.

In a partial keepers (11x11 players), I'm not even sure Schultz (or Phaneuf) are keepers. The 3rd round pick can be huge though, in these pools.

Phaneuf + 3rd = Thumbs up...
but wait...
If that was a first offer, you should always counter.
Ask for Phaneuf + 2nd.
My guess, you'll get it!

STONE. 12-11-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pengwin7 (Post 1044484)
I'd totally take Phaneuf and the 3rd.

Worst case, Schultz turns out to be a 50-55pt scorer.
We already know Phaneuf is a steady 40pt guy... so maybe (MAYBE!) you lose 15pts on this deal... absolute worst case.

In a partial keepers (11x11 players), I'm not even sure Schultz (or Phaneuf) are keepers. The 3rd round pick can be huge though, in these pools.

Phaneuf + 3rd = Thumbs up...
but wait...
If that was a first offer, you should always counter.
Ask for Phaneuf + 2nd.
My guess, you'll get it!

Perfect advice. I can't believe you're getting the pick upgrade with the more "safe" player. Schultz is tearing up the AHL -- true. But he hasn't stepped on to NHL ice yet. Lots of growing pains could still occur.

havanablast21 12-11-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBigJankowski (Post 1044483)
I was offered this trade this morning.

My Schultz and a 8th round pick.

For his Phaneuf and a 3rd round pick.

Here is his roster, any thoughts on counter offers? Team in Sig. Thanks!

Matt Duchene, Derek Roy, Ryan Getzlaf, Joe Thornton, Curtis Glencross, Thomas Vanek, Rick Nash, Alex Ovechkin, Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek, Ales Hemsky,
Patric Hornqvist, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Cam Fowler, Dion Phaneuf, Ryan Ellis. Kiprusoff, Backstrom
Farm: Jonathan Huberdeau, Sean Couturier

Oh HELL YA...Phaneuf and the pick upgrade! I'd be accepting this without question.

Like Pengwin7 says...Shultz MAY turn out to be a pretty decent offensive defenceman...but you KNOW that Phaneuf is that already (all the hayter's aside). PLUS the pick upgrade! I'd toy with the idea of upgrading the pick like Pen said...but this trade as is...is a win for you...I'd be more apt to click the accept button before he has a chance to rethink his offer.

Shakedown 12-11-2012 02:24 PM

Yeah this is pretty much a must-do deal. Phanuef has history plus a hell of a pick upgrade.

kevinsrangers 12-11-2012 02:30 PM

take that for sure. your competitor is jumping on the hype and you need to get it done before he comes to his senses.

Carcillo 12-11-2012 02:35 PM

I'd do it just for the pick upgrade. Neither Schultz or Phaneuf is a keeper for you.

rataylor22 12-11-2012 02:48 PM

Just me, I'd either counter for a higher pick or Fowler instead of Phaneuf. Just personal opinion of who I like more.

Carcillo 12-11-2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rataylor22 (Post 1044506)
Just me, I'd either counter for a higher pick or Fowler instead of Phaneuf. Just personal opinion of who I like more.

It would only make sense to counter with Fowler instead of Phaneuf if any of these D-men would be keepers. But I don't see it. His weakest keepers are Marleau and Hossa (and the two rookies but I assume they need to keep some rookies?) and he has Shattenkirk, Schneider, Kesler, Pacioretty and Wheeler to replace them with. Not really room to keep any of Schultz, Phaneuf or Fowler. Atleast I wouldn't keep any of those three.

DerekReese 12-11-2012 03:03 PM

I would make this deal if I were you.


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