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sexymountain 11-22-2012 08:35 AM

Women Fighting in the Ultimate Fighting Championship
 
Bad?
Or
Good?

Why?

Does this change your mind at all or inspire you?
http://youtu.be/v6NN9E9mG_E?hd=1
Put together by yours truly... Any feedback would also be nice on it. It's my first highlight.

blayze 11-22-2012 09:44 AM

Good... don't see why they shouldn't.

I don't think the issue is opportunity... it's more lack of enough legitimate talent to fill the division.

Nice avatar.

Axeman33 11-22-2012 10:39 AM

I dont have an issue with it. Some of the women look better in there then the men do. its no worse then womens boxing so if they want to go in there and have at 'er, then I say all the power to them.

ericdaoust 11-22-2012 10:47 AM

Their cards are too thin right now. One injury and the whole thing falls apart. Hopefully the women catch on as must-see fights to help make the show better.

The Comish 11-22-2012 11:52 AM

It's like women's hockey, I support their right to play, but it's painful to watch. Not a fan. I would never pay to watch women fight. Sideshow at best.

eyemissgilmour 11-22-2012 12:02 PM

I personally think women should be able to fight against the men, if they want.
Weight class restrictions in effect, of course.
I guess I'm just a woman's rights type of guy, so I would have no problem watching them take (legal) beatings from a man, from time to time - if they so choose to compete against men professionally.

Before I get blasted too hard... female police officers are trained to subdue male criminals who are often bigger and stronger, so why can't women fight against men in the UFC? Doesn't make sense to me.

If I'm an idiot, so be it.

repenttokyo 11-22-2012 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Comish (Post 1039835)
It's like women's hockey, I support their right to play, but it's painful to watch. Not a fan. I would never pay to watch women fight. Sideshow at best.

i guess you aren't watching the right leagues to make such an ignorant comment on either sports.

women's fighting might be new to the UFC, but it's been going on around the world in MMA for many years, and there is a very high level of competition overseas.

Women's hockey is also entertaining to watch. My father coached university women's hockey here in Canada for over a decade, and it's tiresome to hear sexist, bullshit comments like yours from men who can't get their heads out of their own asses.

eyemissgilmour 11-22-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repenttokyo (Post 1039839)
i guess you aren't watching the right leagues to make such an ignorant comment on either sports.

women's fighting might be new to the UFC, but it's been going on around the world in MMA for many years, and there is a very high level of competition overseas.

Women's hockey is also entertaining to watch. My father coached university women's hockey here in Canada for over a decade, and it's tiresome to hear sexist, bullshit comments like yours from men who can't get their heads out of their own asses.


Give me a break. It is neither ignorant or sexist for him to have the opinion of women's hockey being painful to watch. Kids playing hockey is painful to watch also. But that's just for me - many people might feel differently and actually find entertainment value in it. Fair enough. But I don't and it's just a personal preference. Point is - personal preferences are not the same thing as ignorance.

repenttokyo 11-22-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour (Post 1039841)
Give me a break. It is neither ignorant or sexist for him to have the opinion of women's hockey being painful to watch. Kids playing hockey is painful to watch also. But that's just for me - many people might feel differently and actually find entertainment value in it. Fair enough. But I don't and it's just a personal preference. Point is - personal preferences are not the same thing as ignorance.

it is completely ignorant and sexist to say that women's hockey is painful to watch. it's essentially saying 'women can not play hockey at a comparable level to men." that is a sexist statement. I am willing to be that female Canadian university hockey players could easily whip the snot out of anyone posting in this thread in a game of hockey.

Personal preference is saying "I prefer not to watch women's hockey." Sexism is saying "women's hockey is painful to watch."

You yourself just compared women's hockey to children's hockey, obliquely, in your own post. The language that we use to discuss these issues is indicative of how society has conditioned us to view women, and it comes out in unintentional as well as intentional ways.

Sexism is such an institution in our society - something that was have been so conditioned to accept as the norm - that we are in many cases incapable of recognizing our own ignorant or sexist actions.

The Comish 11-22-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by repenttokyo (Post 1039839)
Women's hockey is also entertaining to watch. My father coached university women's hockey here in Canada for over a decade, and it's tiresome to hear sexist, bullshit comments like yours from men who can't get their heads out of their own asses.

You are entitled to your opinion on what you find entertaining, please allow me to have my own tastes.

Just because I find it difficult to watch women's hockey, doesn't mean it's sexist. For me, the entertainment value isn't there - I don't find it exciting knowing that men's hockey is so much more physical, faster and entertaining.

Sexist would be if I were to support women only being able to play beach volleyball or tennis, you know, something where they can show off their real talents (nudge, nudge, wink, wink). But I didn't say that.

Again, I support women's rights to play/do anything they wish, I just don't really want to watch it. Heck, I definitely would support them fighting against men if they were good enough, no problem at all. I can't figure out why the PGA won't let a woman play against the men in an "Open" event!? I guess she would have to hit from the men's tees though, to be fair. But I digress...bottom line, not sexist, just find it boring!


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